NVIDIA GT200 Rumours & Speculation Thread

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  1. Tchock

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    Hmm... 930 FLOPS + low shader clocks means they're probably not straying far from the balance of what the G94 brought, although slightly closer to G92 for GPGPU.

    As for pricing, I wouldn't worry. Even at >600, there ARE enough people desperate enough for good Crysis experiences to get one, and the halo effect should be as tremendous as G80.
     
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    Well you're going from 172.8 GMUL/s in the original GTX to ~ 624 GMUL/s in GT200. So if you're running something with lots of MULs it'll probably be a tad faster :)
     
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    Apparently it is too expensive to have a brand new GT200 in my computer case during this year. :smile:
     
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    If the GTX 280 will last as long as the 8800 GTX, it should be worth the price.
     
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    i am sorry i did not make myself clear to you. You noted that the FoH appeared here first and within a day it was all over the 'net.

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    Now that i am no longer posting there for personal reasons [bitterness, don't ask; i don't kiss and tell], i am more active here but limit my posting as i apparently irritate some of you with my style over substance posts [which go over well enough at ATF, ARSt and HardOCP]. Of course, if i see something here that is new or that fits in with what i am posting at other places, i always mention you guys at B3D - generally with much respect - and i also credit you as a source and occasionally link to your posts as i did with FoH at HardOCP [only; evidently ARSt already knew as did ATF by the time i got there; so i am not alone in cross-posting at other forums!].

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    As to the Mayan Calender ending in 2012, i believe that is the day they are supposed to Return and ReSet their Sundial. And they have a Zero year that is no zero year at all so i personally think it is 2014. Party on guys, we have a couple of extra years by my own calculations.
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    Doubtful, imo. However, the Tesla architecture should be the basis for the next two years for Nvidia GPUs if i am reading the tea leaves right. BtW, i got my 8800GTX for 50 bucks from a friend who "upgraded" to Gx2 against my advice; so i took advantage of his stupid "luck" to enhance mine.

    Dammit .. nVidia should call their new GTX, the "2800" .. daamit; it looks like they are copying Nissan - Turbo GT 280ZX LTD 2.0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_280ZX

    what do you think? The Nissan GT 280ZX even had a 2+2 !!
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    Another piece of "Nvidia-Hate Rants" (written like an angry boy left out of the party) from Charlie.
    Business as usual.

    Conveniently, not a word about G92b at 55nm, nor any hard performance figures. Just enough "flops" and word mangling to force a match between the GTX 260 and the HD4870 -like they were even in the same league or were designed as such-.
     
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    Wow Charlie really hates Nvidia.....

    No doubt they missed shader clocks by about 100Mhz but I doubt Nvidia was expecting more than a 600Mhz base clock. Power consumption and yields could be serious problems though.

    Heh, too bad that equates to 28 ROPs :)
     
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    While the article seems logical enough, it's possible nVidia may be holding back on their true clock speeds until launch. But Occam's Razor says otherwise.
     
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    really, I would like to see Charlie eat that one, cause it will happen, and about the clocks, he is really off :wink:, ah trini beat me to it.
     
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    Funny how he is talking about being mathematically impaired and cant even subtract his own clusters. Charlie is such a moron. Shame people actually read the garbage he blogs.
     
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    Seems like AMD will have a much better chance at competing if these are true. But put the missing mul back in may make up for a lot of the somewhat low clocks.

    Again I'm wondering if monolothic monster chip didn't bite Nvidia a bit, resulting in low clocks and so forth.
     
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    If rumored performance is true, these "low" clocks are more than enough.:wink:

    Do you not think this anti-NV approach in this article is more mentioned ironic? :grin:
     
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    Whats with the Nvidia patronising going on here? Charlie is as much one-side slanted as Fuad.
     
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    Exactly. If these rumours are true who cares about low clocks? It seems like about 3X GF8800GTX in higher resolutions.
    http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=277971
     
  17. Rangers

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    I dunno..7000 3dmark extreme points seems a bit ridiculous..

    Do the specs bear that out? I'm not sure but it seems kinda dicey.

    Just comparing on shader numbers and clocks I dont see it, the wildcard is the missing mul.

    According to poster in that very link a 9800GX2 only scores 3184..to believe GT280 is >2x that is some stretch.

    You can see some 3dMark vantage extreme scores here

    http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/3dmark_vantage_performance/page13.asp

    About the only score in the FS link that even puts 7k as a possibility in my opinion is ~2500 for 8800 Ultra. Even that is a stretch as you're asking GT280 to be nearly 3X as fast. If Nvidia pulled that off, wow.
     
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    If the 9800GX2 is scoring only 3184 its likely framebuffer limited in extreme settings.
     
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    Well the 8800 Ultra scores 2526 according to FS numbers.

    2526 * 240/128 (units) * 1300/1500 (clock) * 3/2 (flops) =~ 6157.

    Throw in the higher bandwidth and any efficiency tweaks and you could probably get up near 7000.
     
  20. nAo

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    Beware of super linear scaling, I'd be really impressed if that number is true.
     
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