INKster said:NV50 was "cancelled" less than 2 years ago, IIRC
XbitLabs said:Yet another reason for future product cancellation is shift towards higher performance products in the same timeframe as the original product was meant to be launched.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20041205035620.html
What, you think Fuad has any credibility at all, especially given his latest bout of idiocy?INKster said:NV50 was "cancelled" less than 2 years ago, IIRC
Mize said:I'm just curious...
Could multi-core fab tech put a gpu on the die and eliminate the bus...couple with edram for a low power low cost screemer? Too much tequila probably.
Chalnoth said:What, you think Fuad has any credibility at all, especially given his latest bout of idiocy?
As soon as the rumour went around, a bunch of ATI people started to send their CVs to Nvidia.
Nvidia might even get some of the hot shots as few jobs at ATI are certain anymore. You don’t need two sets of accountants and two marketing departments and there have to be some cuts sooner or later, if the deal goes ahead.
According to green sources, Nvidia has already received over a hundred job requests from ATI chaps. The second thing that Nvidia likes is that the uncertainty is likely to delay some of the products. ATI is already late by more than a quarter with its 80 nanometre RV560 and RV570.
geo said:http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33297
Well, apparently NV aren't against talking to Faud about *some* things.
Fuad said:According to green sources,
How can it make nVidia suffer in the long run yet make it stronger than ever before at the same time?Long term, we are sure that Nvidia will suffer from the deal, but it will take time until that happens.We think this development might just make Nvidia stronger than ever before.
The usual Inquirer tactic is to throw every possibility out there, just so they can say "told you so" when something actually does happen. Usually this is done in separate pieces though. I agree it looks kinda silly to cover contradictory outcomes in the same sentencedigitalwanderer said:From the end of Fuad's "article":
How can it make nVidia suffer in the long run yet make it stronger than ever before at the same time?
The old, "that which does not kill you makes you stronger" logic?
Otto Dafe said:So what is it about AMD internally producing chipsets/igps that will be so appealing to OEMs? If they just want one-stop shopping certainly AMD could just drop a sweet deal on SIS/VIA/ATI whoever to let AMD rebrand some of their lines and deliver the whole package to the big boys. Do the OEMs ask for custom boards(probably) or custom chips(really?)? Even still, if it's just about bringing a top-to-bottom AMD branded what-have-you to the OEM, I really don't see why they couldn't get it outside the plantation and rebrand it. If it's just about cutting costs doing it inhouse that's great, but why wait for a big acquisition? They could have done this years ago. So why is this such a key point(and of course any additional insight into the OEM buyer analysis/criteria would be muy appreciated as well)?
Its to late, Conroe as a platform is already made and working, R600 will be the chipset of choice for a highend dualgpu with conroe. Back to the ati internal review, How to get to 45nm and still have a company.... who can make 45nm before TSMC can get it going... hmmm Intell or AMD. ATi didnt throw in the towel, they brought the beer to the party. you think NVDA will be on 45nm before ATI? your smoking somthing. BAck to Conroe, just how many can Intel produce.. well it wont be all that much till around january. And if the buzz drops about it Intell will be laying of another 5000. Heck Intel is already going to lay off more workers than this merger will produce. Intell can only realy drop prices till it hurts AMD in the short run, and they drop prices(intell that is) by laying off. Shortterm, nothing realy changes, longterm AMD/ATI will have the China/India and the first gpus on 45nm, way before NVDA.Razor1 said:I'm sure this is just the beginning, Intel isn't going to make it easy for them
karlotta said:Its to late, Conroe as a platform is already made and working, R600 will be the chipset of choice for a highend dualgpu with conroe. Back to the ati internal review, How to get to 45nm and still have a company.... who can make 45nm before TSMC can get it going... hmmm Intell or AMD. ATi didnt throw in the towel, they brought the beer to the party. you think NVDA will be on 45nm before ATI? your smoking somthing. BAck to Conroe, just how many can Intel produce.. well it wont be all that much till around january. And if the buzz drops about it Intell will be laying of another 5000. Heck Intel is already going to lay off more workers than this merger will produce. Intell can only realy drop prices till it hurts AMD in the short run, and they drop prices(intell that is) by laying off. Shortterm, nothing realy changes, longterm AMD/ATI will have the China/India and the first gpus on 45nm, way before NVDA.
karlotta said:Its to late, Conroe as a platform is already made and working, R600 will be the chipset of choice for a highend dualgpu with conroe. Back to the ati internal review, How to get to 45nm and still have a company.... who can make 45nm before TSMC can get it going... hmmm Intell or AMD. ATi didnt throw in the towel, they brought the beer to the party. you think NVDA will be on 45nm before ATI? your smoking somthing. BAck to Conroe, just how many can Intel produce.. well it wont be all that much till around january. And if the buzz drops about it Intell will be laying of another 5000. Heck Intel is already going to lay off more workers than this merger will produce. Intell can only realy drop prices till it hurts AMD in the short run, and they drop prices(intell that is) by laying off. Shortterm, nothing realy changes, longterm AMD/ATI will have the China/India and the first gpus on 45nm, way before NVDA.
Not manufacturing, but salesRazor1 said:India? India doesn't have the infrastructure to do basic chip building let alone anything this complex. I've looked into this quite a bit too. I think you might be smoking if you think India is going to be a forerunner in the microchip industry.
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karlotta said:Not manufacturing, but sales