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4080 12gb for all its intend being called a ’4070’ actually performing like a 3090ti makes that gpu a quite good value and is promising for gpus further scaling down.
Thats a 4070 (sometimes even called 4060) performing like the fastest last gen GPU the 3090Ti.
Fully expect some of the most bright people hypnotizing themselves into buying a 3090 over 4080/12 because the latter is apparently a "4070" because... reasons.
 
I think both 4080 variants are pretty underwhelming. The 12G is 15-20% faster than a 3080 for a 30% price increase 2 years later. The 16G is 50% faster for 70% more. Only the 4090 delivers. Halo parts have always been poor value but ironically the 4090 is now the highest value tier.
 
Fully expect some of the most bright people hypnotizing themselves into buying a 3090 over 4080/12 because the latter is apparently a "4070" because... reasons.

Console users whom are not in the market for any gpu anyway. Its like you summoned atleast one by making that comment.
 
4080 12gb for all its intend being called a ’4070’ actually performing like a 3090ti makes that gpu a quite good value and is promising for gpus further scaling down.
Thats a 4070 (sometimes even called 4060) performing like the fastest last gen GPU the 3090Ti.
You've got to be joking.

If Nvidia priced the 3090Ti at $8000, it would make the similar performing 4070 4080 12GB look like the steal of the century, right?

Using the 3090Ti as a basis of comparison is super misleading because it itself is terrible value compared to the 3080 or even 3080Ti. The 3080Ti is very much in the same ballpark of performance of the 4070 4080 12GB, and all the sudden the value proposition is already looking way worse as a point of comparison, isn't it? It gets far worse when compared to the 12GB 3080 and especially the 10GB 3080, which is not that far behind the 3080Ti, all at an MSRP of $700. We're literally talking like an 8-10% performance increase for 28% higher price two years later.

This is atrocious and any sensible person can see this. This tactic of utilizing the absolute WORST possible value Ampere cards to compare to is just straight up dishonest.
 
This is atrocious and any sensible person can see this. This tactic of utilizing the absolute WORST possible value Ampere cards to compare to is just straight up dishonest.
You can't argue anything here anymore, Nvidia marketing has taken over completely. If Nvidia wants to call it a 4080 12Gb and price it that way, we have to accept it and praise Nvidia for bringing us these amazing products.
 
Can we use a 6950XT as a baseline? 4080 12GB will deliver twice the performance while using 50W less power and costs MSRP 300$ less. Sounds good?!

Well, they can pivot it any-way they want obviously. Just the idea that a '3070' is performing like a 3090Ti isnt that bad since the true 4070 and 4060 will deliver enough performance at a lower price. The stack seems to have moved up, if a 4060 is going to perform like a 3080/ti with all the added features its not going to be a problem at all i think. Its just that performance stacks have changed. It all depends on what the 4060/4070 are going to do and priced like.

its too early to call everything nasty when we only have the high end pipeline revealed (and not even released).
 
The 3080Ti scores 251fps in Overwatch 2 @1440p, which makes the 4090 score of 507fps two times faster than the 3080Ti.

Ummm no. In whatever scene that Nvidia benchmark is from a 3080Ti doesn't score 251 fps. It would score around 275 applying the typical % differential.
 
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I'm just hoping I can get one (4090) right away. I've been speaking to some other people and they mostly seem to agree that there should be enough units that if you're actively F5'ing to get one.. you shouldn't have any issues lol.
 
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Lol.
 
The leaker published a 3DMark XeSS score, too. Fun fact, XeSS test needs a DXR1.1 card. The 4080 would be >2x faster than my 3090 in 4K without XeSS...
 
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