NPD October 2007

The total PS2 and PS3 amount for the month was 305,000 which averages out to 76k per week over the entire month combined sales. Unelss the sales really dropped in the middle two weeks of the month, the statements make no sense to assume that the 75k figure is for combined sales, but if it's not combined sales then either the PS3 sales for the rest of the month were excpetionally poor, or the figures are just not included (which seems unlikely as the week for the figures should be in the report). Overall the PS3s sales are up from last month, but not by anything special.
 
Same here, 25 BD movies, 0 games. It's launch price was more in line with a home theater component than a game console, so I suspect there are more of us out there than people would expect.

22movies and 0 games currently (1 game traded). 360 = 12 games currently owned (3 traded). I bought it due to getting the Fox/Disney/Sony titles on BR and rest on HD DVD. Other than that it was a cool new toy I wanted to check out.
 
There's definitely something fishy with the Sony PR. Their numbers don't match with NPD tracking very well at all. 30k for 3 weeks and 75k for one is 165k, not 120k.

I still don't get how Sony is getting weekly sold to consumer updates? if they had sort of reliable info, they wouldn't even be in the NPD circus.
 
MS PR: http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/microsoft-hypes-xbox-360-momentum/18566/

"For the month of October according to NPD, Xbox 360 software represented 54 percent of total software sales (at $162 million dollars) for this generation, compared to 30 percent for Wii and 16 percent for PS3.

Of all 3rd party U.S. software revenue in October, Xbox 360 generated more than double that of the PS3 and Wii. Xbox 360 weighs in at 57 percent with $130 million, compared to Wii with 28 percent and PS3 at 15 percent.

PS3 and Wii combined had one third party title in the top ten console title list for the month, while Xbox 360 weighed in with 2. Since November, third party partners have seen their titles hit the top ten 29 times for Xbox 360, compared to 2 for PS3 and 2 for Wii."
 
I still don't get how Sony is getting weekly sold to consumer updates? if they had sort of reliable info, they wouldn't even be in the NPD circus.

Maybe they are not sold to customer numbers, but sold to retail numbers. I feel sorry for PGR 4, it's a great game and it deserves more sales, although I haven't purchased it yet either :oops:
I wonder how much longer the Wii can do what it's doing... over a million units sold in last two months... and more in October than in September despite the 4 vs 5 week thing! Sony is in a deep hole in NA. The two remaining months should be interesting to see whether Sony can get anything going.
 
I have 7 BD movies and 0 games. There are many many owners like me I guess.

Same here, 25 BD movies, 0 games. It's launch price was more in line with a home theater component than a game console, so I suspect there are more of us out there than people would expect.

22movies and 0 games currently (1 game traded).

According to some studies a few months ago, you belong to 10-20% of PS3 owners (exclusive Blu-ray players).

I have 6 movies and 8 games so far.

My wild guess is people are delaying purchase because they are busy working, and/or they have other alternatives (360 games). As the price falls, they should attract younger owners who have more time to consume games, especially exclusive ones, at a higher rate.

I would also observe what percentage of these games have (or do not have) online capability.

All these data will help Sony plan their console marketing and game lineup better (especially Playstation Home).

I still don't get how Sony is getting weekly sold to consumer updates? if they had sort of reliable info, they wouldn't even be in the NPD circus.

Could be sales-through numbers (sold to retailers), or sales-out numbers (actual "sold to consumer" numbers via close partners and then projected -- if they have weekly channel data collection infrastructure). It took Compaq 5 years to roll out and stablize a Europe wide channel data collection mechanism. So it's a huge undertaking.
 
The $399 PS3 and the price cut was known on Oct.18, most who are price sensitive and the target of the $399 unit would just wait for it. Before that it was the $600 80GB bundle and $500 60GB, basically nothing changed from the last month.

As for Ratchet, obviously the current owners of PS3 don't contain many kids that is the main audience of the franchise. However it's important to have such a quality game in the portfolio when a demand arises.
 
The $399 PS3 and the price cut was known on Oct.18, most who are price sensitive and the target of the $399 unit would just wait for it. Before that it was the $600 80GB bundle and $500 60GB, basically nothing changed from the last month.

So how long are these people going to wait? The price cut to the 80gb unit wasn't just announced on Oct. 18, that's when it happened. The rumor is that the 40gb unit isn't really taking off (I believe sonycowboy said it landed with a thud) and that most of the sales increase they've had is from 80gb and 60gb sales.

As for Ratchet, obviously the current owners of PS3 don't contain many kids that is the main audience of the franchise. However it's important to have such a quality game in the portfolio when a demand arises.

I think its hard to categorize the sales of a critically acclaimed R&C as anything other than significantly disappointing. It really leaves Uncharted as the only title that looks to have a chance at a big impact this holiday season. UT3 is going to be too late in the year and is really just an established PC multiplayer franchise (I think a lot of the fanbase there will go PC as I expect was/will be the case with orange box), Haze I don't see having any impact, it really looks a mediocre title at best. It looks like MGS4 will be the first real chance for the PS3 to make any sort of a move in NA.
 
I wasn't sure, that's why I asked.

It does bring up some interesting points about other numbers. Walmart had a different SKU for GH-III on 360 (xplorer guitar pack for $10 less basically). I wonder how or if NPD has any way to account for that. I believe there's some other special SKU's out there also at various retailers.
 
What about Wal-Mart ?

Sony's numbers will include Walmart's since those guys are very precise (From what I know, they will pin-point how many units to ship to which stores at what time).

For someone like NPD's, it would be estimates. There will be discrepency.
 
So how long are these people going to wait? The price cut to the 80gb unit wasn't just announced on Oct. 18, that's when it happened. The rumor is that the 40gb unit isn't really taking off (I believe sonycowboy said it landed with a thud) and that most of the sales increase they've had is from 80gb and 60gb sales.
So you believe the transition from 60GB at $500 to 80GB at $500 (with less BC for those who know what is inside) must be something that can drive a significant sales surge :rolleyes:

I think its hard to categorize the sales of a critically acclaimed R&C as anything other than significantly disappointing. It really leaves Uncharted as the only title that looks to have a chance at a big impact this holiday season. UT3 is going to be too late in the year and is really just an established PC multiplayer franchise (I think a lot of the fanbase there will go PC as I expect was/will be the case with orange box), Haze I don't see having any impact, it really looks a mediocre title at best. It looks like MGS4 will be the first real chance for the PS3 to make any sort of a move in NA.
Just be realistic, R&C is a type of game that is sold most in the holiday season and October is not exactly a traditionally busy month.
 
It does bring up some interesting points about other numbers. Walmart had a different SKU for GH-III on 360 (xplorer guitar pack for $10 less basically). I wonder how or if NPD has any way to account for that. I believe there's some other special SKU's out there also at various retailers.


Hm... indeed. Just today I saw a GH3 bundle include a copy of GH2 (~$165) at Best Buy. It'd probably be best to have separate totals for GH3 and GH2 software sales, which I think was mentioned earlier.
 
So you believe the transition from 60GB at $500 to 80GB at $500 (with less BC for those who know what is inside) must be something that can drive a significant sales surge :rolleyes:

I dunno, Sony was the ones claiming it did, I guess you'd have to ask them. As I said the early reports on the 40gb unit seem to indicate it wasn't doing much of a push on its own. It's possible the people on the edge about getting a console took the opportunity to buy because the introduction of the 40gb unit scared them into believing sku's with BC could be discontinued (I have a friend who picked up a 60gb unit two weeks ago with that in mind /shrug).
 
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