Well, as you know, I am a founding member of the hardware userbase is irrelevant movement.
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Well, as you know, I am a founding member of the hardware userbase is irrelevant movement.
The usual token props to PS2 which will be ignored by everybody
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On this board? No, that would be all things Nintendo.
You've got to be kidding me. Yes, the entire sales period was an illusion created by people replacing their banned consoles.
I haven't said that.
Even NeoGAF bans instantly for this argument.
Not that I like the argument either, but NeoGAF bans for pointing to vgchartz, or for suggesting that homebrew's purpose is piracy or occasionally for gloating about poor sales of Square-Enix games a mod happens to like.
woundingchaney
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NeoGaf is a ridiculous excuse for an online message board and I personally have yet to read even a semi-logical thread from there. Any mentions of NeoGaf here at B3D should result in a ban.
Anyways the concept that MS banning consoles led to some large sales momentum in NA is borderline ridiculous.
Anyways the concept that MS banning consoles led to some large sales momentum in NA is borderline ridiculous.
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Then what's your point? You're obviously suggesting the sales, in large part are because of banned consoles. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
They sold 820K 360s. I think you're ignoring that there were big game releases, Christmas surge, black friday promotions, solid bundles, MW2 sku.
Like someone else said, the sales difference between PS3 and 360 is so marginal in the larger sense that really neither console "won" anything. The only obvious win in NA is the software sales being very lopsided towards 360. In large part because of one title and there is a difference in userbase, but it is still very one sided. Sony has to make back the money they're losing on each slim with software sales. They have titles that are selling well, but for some reason they can't seem to get the runaway smash hit exclusive.
According to various gossips from MSFT side there were 600000 banned consoles in USA.
If half of them bought new one - it's 300000 hardware units in Nov.
That's all I have to say.
Got any links?
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The only links I can find say 600,000 to 1 million banned world wide.
I can't wait for Dec numbers now. If they're good also then clearly the other 300k waited until Dec.
Lucid_Dreamer
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I'm sure this is partly due to the 1+ million banned 360 units. You know those people were going to buy another unit at some point. To me, it's only logical that this would have a very real effect.
Lucid_Dreamer
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Whoops, didn't see your post. This is, basically, what I'm saying, too.
woundingchaney
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LOL
I found one.
Ni**** Mages FTW
http://pinoycosplay.blogspot.com/20...k-xbox-live-accounts.html?zx=ba0262eef90a1dd4
The laughable part is that most mainstream internet sites are using this as their source or other sources that developed from this. Such as Techspot and Xbox Scene:
http://www.techspot.com/news/36892-microsoft-bans-600000-360s-from-live-plans-for-more.html
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EkVZlAVEuZRwOQKvfN.php
God I love internet journalism where any middle school child can be a professional journalist. It seems even MSNBC and BBC used these numbers once larger sites began referencing them in their reports as well (though they give no valid source in their article).
I personally have no idea if MS banned 300, 600,000 or 6,000,000 consoles, but either way to suggest that 1/2 of them ran out and repurchased their 360 is more than a bit extreme. MS has not and most likely will not release official numbers as to the amount of banned consoles but simply describes the number as "small".
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Isn't Xbox Live less common outside of the US as well so a smaller percentage of people would even notice? This thread is pretty bad considering the normal standards around here.
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