NPD November 2009

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I personally have no idea if MS banned 300, 600,000 or 6,000,000 consoles, but either way to suggest that 1/2 of them ran out and repurchased their 360 is more than a bit extreme.

And why is that?
The ban was executed just before MW2 launch, MW2 is purely a multiplayer game. The only way to not stay behind the crowd is to buy a new hw unit.
But I suppose this should be going to http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=55611
 
And the other half bought PS3 Slims.

So it's a wash.

Actually, I theorize that all the banned 360 owners bought Wiis -- which nicely fit the numbers expected of the Wii -- it's in serious decline, so naturally, it would have sold ~200K units. Given that ~1Million 360's were banned, according to the most reliable sources on the internet, it follows that of the 1.26Million Wii's sold in November, they were sold to former 360 modders.

Those numbers are sound, as is the logic. Now, leave me alone as I add more foil to area around my windows.
 
And why is that?
The ban was executed just before MW2 launch, MW2 is purely a multiplayer game. The only way to not stay behind the crowd is to buy a new hw unit.
But I suppose this should be going to http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=55611

I think you are missing the point entirely. Your referenced numbers are the direct result of a "blog" post that cannot realistically be considered valid. Additionally, you are making a rather outlandish assumption that so many should be jaded consumers went out and immediately repurchased the very same brand that just banned their previous console. Their incentive to repurchase a 360 does exist of course, but by no means to the extent you are suggesting. You are also completely discrediting the second hand market. Not only all of this but, by and large your are directly associating all of these supposed banned consumers to exist entirely in NA.

You are giving no credit to the logical suggestions of this sales pace to be the result of the largest selling FPS title this gen to be directly associated with the 360 launching in Nov, various purchase incentives from Walmart (a massive store chain), holiday shopping appeal, good bundling incentives from MS, and many other verifiable reasons for seeing this sales pace. In some way these banned consoles may of had a minor impact on MS sales, but to suggest it was some driving sales momentum is not realistic.
 
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Actually, I theorize that all the banned 360 owners bought Wiis

Actually, I've done some further research and Microwave sales were up in the month of November. And as most Microwave ovens are either sold in Black or Off-White casings, it seems logical to assume that many of those 600K banned Xbox owners bought a Microwave Oven instead.
 
Isn't Xbox Live less common outside of the US as well so a smaller percentage of people would even notice?
I think it's fair to say some banned consolers would be buying new consoles. Given their friends are on XB360, I guess they would go back to 360 (also the cheapest platform) rather than migrate to PS3. For the NA market, it'd be a percentage of the unknown quantity of worldwide banned consoles. IF the banned number were 600,000, 100,000 replacements bought would be plausible I think. The number can't really be considered a majority share of the November XB360 sales though, as the figures just don't work out that way unless all the console owners were US citizens and all bought a replacement.

This thread is pretty bad considering the normal standards around here.
Seems pretty normal for an NPD thread to me, which is why I tend to avoid them!
 
Apparently these are the 11-20:

10. Mario Kart (Wii)
11. Wii Play (Wii)
12. Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (Wii)
13. Value Game Bundle (Wii)
14. Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story (DS)
15. Dragon Age: Origins (PS3) - 188k
16. Value Game Bundle (Wii)
17. God of War Collection (PS3) < 180k
18. Halo 3: ODST (360)
19. Borderlands (360)
20. Madden NFL 10 (360)

(Thread awaiting some pruning of sorts... maybe)
 
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