NPD January 2008

they're not "way at the back"... generally, multiplatform titles sell roughly half of the 360 version (more or less). how can you compete with other consoles that have ~2.5x the install base? and comparing it to the 360, which we all know is a software selling beast, are the PS3 software sales really that bad? i don't think you're trying to be a troll, but i think your expectations of PS3 software sales are far too high.

 

stunning. ps3 is outselling 360 in us and uk.

 

yea we knew 360 was expeiencing a shortage for the past few weeks... was /is hard to find

 

and as always and obviously in the rest of the world. The tide is turning, if this keeps up they'll have eaten MS base advantage by next year at the latest.

 

that kind of proves my point, no? are PS3 software sales really that bad?
btw, NPD US LTD numbers are:
360 - ~9.31m
PS3 - ~3.52m

 

I haven't checked(verified) it yet but supposedly sonycowboy showed on neogaf(my user activation's pending ) that overall ps3 owners relatively are buying more software than either 360 or wii owners for the month of january, If I read correctly.

 

also, looking at other countries (in europe for example) where the ps3's install base is (at least right now) comparable to the 360's, the PS3 generally sells more software.

 

I find it stunning that both MS and Nintendo can have shortages 26 and 14 months into their lives respectively. Whoever does their forecasting needs to be taken out the back and beaten Seriously, what a way to lose face.

As for software... what, is this the third month COD4 on 360 has been #1? Amazing performance, and I'm sure it's far better than most expected given the competition that's out there.

What I also find interesting in that with obvious Wii and 360 shortages, the numbers across all hardware seems extremely high for a January month... it really shines on just how big this industry is getting, and how many platforms can genuinely be supported thanks to this growth. This is good news for everyone. One console future? Ha!

 

Your math is deeply flawed. It's not even about numbers. It's all about the list.

As long as Burnout PS3 stays out of top 10, there is no way in hell PS3 owners on average can be spending more than 360 or even Wii owners.

Seriously though, relatively strong PS3 software sales can be explained by apparently significant contribution of new owners, who -in numbers- happen to be more than the other console's. So nothing to worry about.

 

i never said PS3 owners are spending more than 360 owners, did i? my numbers are facts, so i don't see how they are flawed. i did not put out any numbers of my own, nor did i come up with any conclusions. all i did was post the facts, attempting to show that the PS3's software sales aren't as bad as people say, but actually pretty good (relatively speaking).

 

I have a theory about why the 360 is having shortages. MS probably did anticpate some level of demand, but they haven't worked through all their build quaility issues so a lot of units are used to replace the defective ones. Here's a story on their failure rate.

 

Let me say it then, average PS3 owner spent $80/3.52 , which is indeed greater than $159/9.31

ps: I wasn't really talking to you before.

 

One problem with this is that its generally a small number of people that buy most of the games. I am pretty sure that the PS3 is doing worse sw #s even when compared to the 360 at the same time.

 

what?

just the past 6mos show us this...

August: 131K PS3, 277K XBox 360;
PS3=0.47*XBox 360
September: 119K PS3, 528K XBox 360;
PS3=0.225*XBox 360
October: 121K PS3, 366K XBox 360;
PS3=0.33*XBox 360
November: 466K PS3, 770K XBox 360;
PS3=0.605*XBox 360
December: 797K PS3, 1m26 XBox 360;
PS3=0.633*XBox 360
January: 269K PS3, 230K XBox 360;
PS3=1.170*XBox 360​

360 outsold PS3 by 463,000 in Dec alone... PS3 outsold 360 by only 39,000 units ONE time since they launched in 15 months and now you extrapolate that they will "close the gap" by 2009? ​

oh and this NA only which is what I assume you are referring to since this is an NPD thread. ​

 

July of 2020.

 

360 shortages expected to carry into March

 

Dammit, this is turning out to be a huge pain in the ass. I already have a 2nd 360 as a dev kit, but we went looking today with some coder friends for them to get 2nd 360's as devkits (they are helping me with an xna project), and after checking 8 stores we couldn't find them anywhere. Target, Best Buy, Gamestop, Frys, Costco, etc, not one 360 to be found. This is ridiculous. I guess they will have to prototype the game on the pc

 

And if you take a look at the number of people that keept saying that the PS3 isn´t and never was important for Blu-Ray Playback you begin to come close circle..