Software:
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/n...billion-in-january-ps3-almost-ties-wii/?biz=1
Big month for PS3..
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NPD January 2008
- Thread starter Rangers
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Software:
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/n...billion-in-january-ps3-almost-ties-wii/?biz=1
Big month for PS3..
Mefisutoferesu
Regular
Aaahh, this explains why GAF is down... oy vey, it's gonna be a mess tonight.
You just beat me, GameDaily are reporting these figures. And this Top 10:
1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare—Activision—Xbox 360—330.9K*
2. Wii Play w/ remote—Nintendo—Wii—298.1K
3. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock w/ guitar—Activision—Wii—239.6K
4. Rock Band special edition bundle—MTV/EA—Xbox 360—183.8K*
5. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock w/ guitar—Activision—Xbox 360—182.7K*
6. Super Mario Galaxy—Nintendo—Wii—172K
7. Burnout Paradise—EA—Xbox 360—144.1K
8. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare—Activision—PS3—140K
9. Mario Party—Nintendo—NDS—138.5K
10. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games—Sega—NDS—133K
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/n...-in-january-ps3-almost-ties-wii/?biz=1&page=1
My first thought is that MS weren't as drastically affected by supply as they might have thought....these numbers are pretty in line with their numbers last year, once you factor in this was a 4 week month instead of 5. I'm sure they could have sold more, but it wasn't TERRIBLE, fairly in line with last year like I say.
1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare—Activision—Xbox 360—330.9K*
2. Wii Play w/ remote—Nintendo—Wii—298.1K
3. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock w/ guitar—Activision—Wii—239.6K
4. Rock Band special edition bundle—MTV/EA—Xbox 360—183.8K*
5. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock w/ guitar—Activision—Xbox 360—182.7K*
6. Super Mario Galaxy—Nintendo—Wii—172K
7. Burnout Paradise—EA—Xbox 360—144.1K
8. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare—Activision—PS3—140K
9. Mario Party—Nintendo—NDS—138.5K
10. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games—Sega—NDS—133K
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/n...-in-january-ps3-almost-ties-wii/?biz=1&page=1
My first thought is that MS weren't as drastically affected by supply as they might have thought....these numbers are pretty in line with their numbers last year, once you factor in this was a 4 week month instead of 5. I'm sure they could have sold more, but it wasn't TERRIBLE, fairly in line with last year like I say.
djskribbles
Legend
i found this bit interesting.
Damn gaf made me lose my monthly NPD threads 
Nice sales for PS3 regardless of how any other console exists.
Wii shortages are getting to the point of annoyance
MS take a bow. Takes a real tard to have shortages after 2 years of launch. If there isn't a hardware revision coming up or something I have no idea how they managed to screw this up.
Nice sales for PS3 regardless of how any other console exists.
Wii shortages are getting to the point of annoyance
MS take a bow. Takes a real tard to have shortages after 2 years of launch. If there isn't a hardware revision coming up or something I have no idea how they managed to screw this up.
inefficient
Veteran
Wow @ the PS3 numbers. They almost even outsold the Wii this month. That would have been HUGE! They were only 5000 short of that.
I did end up importing a US Wii in Feb. So +1 Wii for next month's NPD.
I did end up importing a US Wii in Feb. So +1 Wii for next month's NPD.
I guess so but if that's the case, would we say PS3 has higher demand right now? Not good for MS if true.
I'm saying, if there were not 360 shortages, would it have even outsold PS3? Of course none of us know. I wonder if Blu Ray was a big deal for PS3 this month. Also I wonder if PS3 garnered significant replacement sales, aka people looking for 360, getting PS3 instead when they cant find it? I dont think this was too much factor though, as PS3 and 360 are too distinct.
Well regardless what you think of 360, PS3 demonstrated a lot of demand this month.
BTW, I could be totally off, but I think February will be another shortage month for 360. From what I've observed, the situation is actually much worse stock-wise for 360 in Feb than it ever was in January that I recall. I've seen a lot of big box online retailers like best buy.com and gamestop.com often be totally out of 360's the last few days (though they seem replenished today), which I dont recall last month.
djskribbles
Legend
theres no doubt the Warner announcement had some effect on sales, and that there were probably a lot of people who bought a PS3 for blu-ray functionality (numbers wise... i bet the percentage of people buying a PS3 for blu-ray exclusively is still quite low). but until we see the rest of the software sales, i don't see how you can come to such a conclusion. CoD4 for 360 sold ~2.4x the PS3 version, which is almost exactly the same difference between the 360 and PS3 install base in the US. i'm going to guess that Burnout Paradise for PS3 sold about half, if not more than half of the 360 version too.
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Looking at the CoD4 numbers, they don't look negatively out of proportion given the overall userbase sizes? The 360 version sold 2.35x the PS3 version, I would say the LTD userbase of 360 vs PS3 is at least the same?
In fact if you normalise for userbases, that title may be selling better on PS3.. 360 is well over 9m in the US now, PS3 is only about 3m or so..?
Overall sales. Where's Burnout for PS3?
There's so little quality games for the PS3 and they don't ever show up in top 10 in sales. People just aren't buying the games.
You can argue til you're red in the face that COD4 has similar marketshare on both consoles, but that's ignoring the fact that COD4 is the THIRD Call of Duty game on the 360 and also ignoring the fact that 360 owners had a helluva lot more games to choose from in the past 6 months.
Given the dearth of decent PS3 games, COD4's penetration should be much higher on the PS3 than the 360.
Given the fact that there's virtually no PS3 games that came out in January or any pricecut to justify the sales, the only differentiator I can see is the Bluray announcement. And given previous NPD statistics on standalone Bluray players, they went through the roof in January -- the only conclusion anyone can reasonably draw here is Bluray is the one and only reason the PS3 finished as strong as it did this month.
Shortages or not, the PS3 and 360 combined are now totally destroying the Wii.
Wii shortages have always existed, and that didn't used to be the case. 360 and PS3 demand has gone way up. 360 sold on par weekly with last Jan, and could have done much better without shortages, while PS3 is up 2 or 3 times it's previous levels of demand.
Consider the average title will be a port between 360 and PS3. They are selling that title into a larger combined userbase than Wii alone. And growing.
Back to 360, there's been a lot of speculation that these shortages are prep for some kind of sku re-jiggering or price cuts. I'd say MS does need to do something..
Wii shortages have always existed, and that didn't used to be the case. 360 and PS3 demand has gone way up. 360 sold on par weekly with last Jan, and could have done much better without shortages, while PS3 is up 2 or 3 times it's previous levels of demand.
Consider the average title will be a port between 360 and PS3. They are selling that title into a larger combined userbase than Wii alone. And growing.
Back to 360, there's been a lot of speculation that these shortages are prep for some kind of sku re-jiggering or price cuts. I'd say MS does need to do something..
Well..they are..just not as much are sold because the userbase is smaller.
You made a point looking at this chart, I made a counter point using the same chart. I highlighted CoD4 because it was the only data point available. It did pull its weight on PS3. and perhaps then some. Maybe Burnout did too, maybe it didn't, we won't know until we've more data. It could easily have pulled its weight and not hit the top 10 (it'd need around 50k, I guess, to be in line with 360's sales when we adjust for userbase size - #10 on the chart sold 130k).
And there's been a good choice of PS3 games in the last months too..I think it's difficult to argue that its 360 sales are lower than they might otherwise be because there's too many great games around! It's been a huge hit by any measure, I don't think it's been held back on 360.
Why is this difficult to argue? I'm not poor by any stretch of the imagination but my game buying budget was maxed out for Nov/Dec before I ever got COD4. I bought it myself finally in February. I've still got a backlog of 360 games to play before I get to it.
I also know others who simply haven't gotten around to getting COD4 yet because they stocked up on other 360 games before COD4 even came out. There was a huge amount of quality & high-selling 360 games in Sept-Dec for the 360. COD4 got lost in the midst of all of them as well. It's not at all unreasonable to assume not everyone can buy 6 or so games over a 3 month period. But if I were a PS3 owner only, buying COD4 would be a no brainer. Actually, it'd have been the only PS3 game I'd buy in the last 6 months of 2007.
Look, all of that's a matter of opinion.
If we stick to the numbers we have, numbers you seemed to refer to when talking about PS3 owners buying BD movies instead of games, the only reasonable comparison we can make currently is CoD4, and that turns out to compare fine when you consider the userbase sizes.
We don't have any more data to come to any more conclusions yet. Like I said, we'll see if Burnout pulled its weight on PS3 or not, probably when we get a top 20 or 30 or whatever. The PS3 versions of these games didn't have to be in the top 10 to pull their weight proportionately, this is why I don't think you should be jumping to the conclusions that you are.
If we stick to the numbers we have, numbers you seemed to refer to when talking about PS3 owners buying BD movies instead of games, the only reasonable comparison we can make currently is CoD4, and that turns out to compare fine when you consider the userbase sizes.
We don't have any more data to come to any more conclusions yet. Like I said, we'll see if Burnout pulled its weight on PS3 or not, probably when we get a top 20 or 30 or whatever. The PS3 versions of these games didn't have to be in the top 10 to pull their weight proportionately, this is why I don't think you should be jumping to the conclusions that you are.
I can appreciate a good troll but that's just one poor attempt.
It's not meant to be a troll, it's how I see it.
If people are buying PS3 games, I'd love to see the sales numbers to back that up. Month after month, theres little to no bestselling PS3 games. Every time we see platform sales numbers, PS3 are way in the back too. I don't think it's a troll to argue that there's a huge number of people primarily using their PS3s as Bluray players (I'm one of them).
and judging by what microsoft said it seems this month is going to be the same too. If that Npd is true sony just ate between around half a million to a million of MS installed base(not counting defective units.) advantage between these likely two months if they had good sales in europe and japan.