Nintendo Switch Event 2017-01-12 and Switch Launch discussion

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just bribe Level 5 to make yet another layton or something new, and bribe capcom to make Ace Attorney again or Ghost Trick sequel and i will buy Switch when those are released
 
just bribe Level 5 to make yet another layton or something new, and bribe capcom to make Ace Attorney again or Ghost Trick sequel and i will buy Switch when those are released

My Nintendo console is one of my infrequent guilty pleasures because I do buy so few games for them. I've ever only owned a Gameboy (White Brick original) Gameboy Colour, GameCube, DS Lite, Wii, 3DS XL. The original Gameboy was the only Nintendo device I bought at launch, I didn't get a GameCube or Wii until more than a year in and I waited for the 'Lite' DS and 'XL' 3DS.
 
I can't believe they're not bundling 1,2 Switch with the machine. It doesn't have Wii Sports lifestyle appeal, but it's is absolutely they type of thing I'd share with people who don't normally play videogames.

I'm not playing that cow milking game any of my family. That'd just be perverse. :oops:

(Hypothetically anyhow. Far too expensive this year. Carefree me of a decade ago would though nothing of dropping £400 on it though)
 
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GameSpot impression Zelda Wii U have a better framerate than Zelda Switch...
I've just read Eurogamer's impressions and they say the reverse:

"Then there is the aggressive game pricing. £60 for Zelda, a £20 premium over the Wii U version, which to the best of our knowledge is identical (though from what we've seen, it does run more smoothly on Switch)"

Videogame journalism :runaway:
 
I'm gonna say it's for external storage, pro controller charging, gamecube controller adapter for smash Bros, or ethernet adapter like it was used for on wiiu
 
The plot thickens

Most likely both versions struggle in places and people have encountered different stress point on different versions.

If the final version does run better on Wii U that would be very disappointing.
 
What is wrong with you people. Who the fuck eats pizza with a fork? :runaway: How is that not the No. 1 WTF observation!?! :runaway:

You must have spent holiday in France or Italy. Most restaurants there serve Neopolitan-style pizza which is not pre sliced and comes with knife and fork for the diners.
 
Most likely both versions struggle in places and people have encountered different stress point on different versions.

If the final version does run better on Wii U that would be very disappointing.


Or one saw the version when docked, and the other in tablet mode, who knows
Just impressions, nothing scientific yet. As you say, wait for the final version.
 
Maybe i miss something but what is the problem? How do you charge your PS4 controller? The last time i checked you have to connect the PS4 controller to the PS4...
Microsoft doesnt even see a problem with standalone batteries.

20h playtime is 83% of a day. There should be enough time between sleep, work and other hobbies to charge these joy cons...

The ps4 controllers can be charged through any usb charger... at least that's how it was on the ps3. I don't own a ps4. The xbo one also lets me do that (but I use double as )


So here is the deal. The way the system is sold , the only way to charge the joy cons is to connect them to the system when docked or charging. If I spend another $20 or whatever I can plug the joy cons into the wall and charge them . Nintendo felt that allowing joycons to be charged by the grip was to charge even more money for it. For me its well if i'm playing my tablet with the pro controller . Now I I want to charge my joy cons . I have to attch them to my switch perhaps slowing the charging of the switch.

Or my friends and I are playing 1 2 switch (hahah) and the joy cons die. Welp now we have to wait till they charge for 3 hours on the switch.....
 
I'm gonna say it's for external storage, pro controller charging, gamecube controller adapter for smash Bros, or ethernet adapter like it was used for on wiiu
the wii u allowed for hardrives and flash drives. Would be nice if I can have a hardrive with some gams installed that I would rather play at home and then just have some loaded to an sd card on the switch
 
I think it is just to expensive. Nintendo should have priced it at €200 (and accepted the loss) to build a market (not just market share) and to sell their software. Now I think they will have to go into panic mode when the Switch does not sell enough.

Also, the software lineup seems lame as hell.
 
Yeah, I have mixed feelings on the device...

From a physical design point of view, it is excellent. You can tell Nintendo put in considerable thought and effort there. As a conceptual idea, it is also excellent, but I think maybe they hamstrung themselves by getting caught up in having games playable in both modes. Clearly, the hardware just isn't there yet (and in some ways never will be - always power/heat gated). I don't know what SoC they are using, but what was shown was not particularly impressive, IMO. And I don't think that is going to cut it in 2017+, except among their already loyal fanbase. I think they really needed to be competitive with X1 when docked (or at least reasonably close), and they just are not. Obviously, that would require a higher performance SoC than what they are using... And you would have a situation where there are "docked only" as well as docked + mobile games. But that would have been a better concession to make then where they currently are (at least if they have any desire to grow or stop declining in the home market).

The software library also leaves me scratching my head. It is an Nvidia chip (with a well established arch) on a presumably custom version of Vulkan. Development shouldn't be that hard...

Pricing predictably meh...

Scorecard:
Physical Design: 9/10
Conceptual Idea: 9/10
Actual Implementation: 6/10
Shown Software: 4/10
Pricing: 5/10

In the context of Nintendo:
Better than the Wii or WiiU, maybe on par with GameCube. I did not buy a GameCube (or anything since N64 for that matter).

In the context of the overall market:
I think this is actually a pretty dangerous device for Nintendo. I expect the home presence to continue to decline. The real trouble I see is the fragility of the device in combination with the price and performance. However robust it may be, it is certainly going to be more prone to breaking than a dedicated home console (with no screen) or the DS. Accidents happen, and I am guessing it is a device which many people will choose not to replace given the cost/library.
 
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You're going to see this everywhere so let's play.

@Shifty Geezer on the left. @London-boy on the right.
 
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