Next Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [pre E3 2019]
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anexanhume
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I believe most feel that Super SIMD is post GCN. Why do you think it will be incorporated?
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You have hints like this
https://forum.beyond3d.com/posts/2057325/
I mean, its design was finished at the end of 2017.Would be silly for them to sit on it for more time when they are so back in the competition.
Otherwise another GCN gen would leave RTG in a very troublesome position.
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Great find. Thank you very much. He’s also on the variable wavefront sizing patent. Not on the micropolygon rasterizer patent, but it was submitted in the same timeframe.
Edit: one of the authors of the micropolygon patent also mentions low power stream processor development on his LinkedIn.
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It boils down to pricing, and how well the release strategy plays out.
a) Release a 8TF/16GB system at $199... set the console space on fire. Guaranteed success!
b) Release a 8TF/16GB system at $299... the price-performance-value makes it a very attractive next-generation product. High probability for success.
c) Release a 8TF/16GB system at $399... the price-performance-value is still there, however, the web-noise of Xbox One X being close in performance will echo more at that price point, and drown-out most of the perceived value.
d) Release a 8TF/16GB system at $499... DOA. Internet explodes!!!!
I don't see 'a' or 'b' happening, however, I see the 'c' strategy being more likely (If the 8TF rumor is true).
IMHO, it would be in Sony's best interests as the current generation leader (towards carrying over its current user base to PS5), is to either aim for the 'b' release strategy and except a BoM hit (-$100) on $400 worth of hardware. Or scale up PS5s hardware (10-12TF) and still except a certain amount of BoM losses ($100-$200) on $600 dollars worth of hardware.
FYI: Previous PlayStation BoM losses at launch...
PS1: $80-$100
PS2: $180
PS3: $195-$205
PS4: None (profiting $20-$22)
Prices come down even without a die shrink. In fact die shrinks seem to make prices go up these days
This isn't the thread "how to market a next-gen console".
All according to cake-aku.
Depends if we skim off the outliers, like the triple stack SoC and dGPU crazies... I would say 2013 with the 8GB gddr5 announcement in a 399 console.
Most also predicted 2TF so that 1.84 was pretty close.
Should we do a poll to get some average predictions?
There was a whole range of crack pipe dreams but I do remember quite clearly that up until the announcement, PS4 was by most accounts expected to be a 4GB RAM kind of deal, so the 8GB was a very nice surprise.
I'm confused by your reference to the Side ALU being able to be combined with the Side ALU.
(Core Alu+Side ALU)+Side ALU=Full ALU+Side ALU.
In other words, physically you have 2 Side ALUs+1 Core ALU but 1 Side ALU+Core Core ALU runs as a "Full" ALU.
OK. So let me try to wrap my head around this. Depending on the instruction you could get execution on the Core ALU, The Core ALU + the associated Side ALU, the associated Side ALU, or the associated Side ALU + the independant Side ALU? Can you execute on all three simultaneously?
I don't see the goblins in that diagram...CAKE means Coherent AMD socKet Extender.
And well... I decided to make an speculation in form of diagram of the Super-SIMD unit. I am sure that is wrong but this is what I understood reading the last patents.
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