Next Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [pre E3 2019]

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  1. BRiT

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    Most Xbox One X owners aren't going to be looking at the low cost nextgen console, so no need to worry about Lockhart.
     
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    Early adopters & 1X owners are more likely to go for Anaconda, 1S and second system buyers would be the Lockhart.

    Maybe I should've added who the target audience was.
    Lockhart
    • 1S owners
    • Second system purchases
    • Casual gamers (including possibly people who don't get to game much any more so find it hard to justify expensive new gen console)
    • Students, kids, lower budget buyers
    • 1080p tvs
    • Willing to except slightly lower visual IQ on 4k

    Anaconda
    • Core Xbox fan
    • Core gamers
    • Stereotypical early adopters
    • Wanting best Xbox 4k experience
    • 1X owners

    Lockhart is an improved 1S in terms of who it's aimed at. Regardless of power.
    Anaconda improved replacement for 1X.
     
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    https://www.myce.com/news/chinese-manufacturer-announces-open-channel-ssds-84846/


    And open channel SSD no problem with basic operations, they are done by the controller

     
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    Says you. ;)

    I have an X1X & depending on what the next gen provides over the X1X I might want to jump in with the low-cost Lockhart knowing the Anaconda is just an expensive 4K beast version.

    Tommy McClain
     
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    I've got 1X, 4k pj, 4k tv, atmos and I may still also go Lockhart. Can afford Anaconda but just don't game enough to possibly justify it.
    If Anaconda gives an improved BC experience compared to Lockhart then that could be deciding factor.
     
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    I'm in no rush to upgrade to next gen yet either, at least based upon what little we know. X1X is holding well. If by E3 2020 they give entirely different reasons to upgrade I'll do it and toss my old XBO for it. But Like you Jay and AzBat, barely enough time as it is to play. Tempted to just ride game pass for casual gaming now and ride out the X1X for a while longer until price points are way down.
     
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  7. XboneX owners wouldn't be Lockhart's target segment anyways.
     
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    MS wants some of the PS4/PRO back to their consoles, and obviously every iteration has a new group of children that's introduced to it, mama and papa will likely not give the most expensive console to them depending on the avaliability of the older generation, etc, lockhart could be "a new cheapest home console"
     
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    Why is PS5 at 10 Tflops when the most believable rumours (if there is such a thing) claim the devkit is at 13?
     
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    We have a believable rumor now?
     
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    What was it someone called it? Concrete rumours? Yeah that was it.
     
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    DevKits tend to be more powerful than consumer hardware.
     
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    Actually I find that Benji-sales is a trustworthy guy. And he claimed he knew PS5 devkits were 13 Tflops.
    I find that rumour more trustworthy than one comming from an unknown, or unidentified source.

    So, it’s not a belivable rumour... it’s a more believable rumour, as I stated!
     
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    Yes... but some Gflops only. Not 3 Tflops.
     
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    It's only 18% difference if you use large values of 10 and small values of 13.
     
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    That depends, maybe they are using Vega64 for early devkits? Isn't that thing around 12.6 to 12.9TF depending on clocks?
     
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    A few Gflops difference with a 10 Tflop machine would be virtually meaningless in a development environment.

    Regards,
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    You should not joke about rumours. They are a valuable source of information.

    Due to them Here’s what we know for shure about the next gen consoles

    CPUs: Zen, Zen 2 or Zen 3, or even a custom version mixing some of them.
    GPUs: Between 5 and 14.2 tflops
    Architecture: Either Vega, Navi, or Arcturus (if there is such architecture)
    RAM: GDDR6, HBM2 or HBM3, maybe even with DDR4
    Capacity between 12 and 32GB of RAM
    Storage: SSD, SSD+, SSD NVMe, or something hybrid with a capacity between 1 and 4 TB
    Ray Tracing: Hardware or software based.
    Price: From 249$ to 499$.

    You want to bet they got it right? :cool::-D
    That’s why rumours are great. :lol2::wink:
     
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    Xbox One X Devkit has 10% more. 10% of 10 Tflops would be 1 Tflop. Not 3!

    But thank you anyway. There is no proof the PS5 devkit is 13 Tflops, so i’m making a pointless discussion.
     
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    The "almost 13 Tflops" was from a tweet he very quickly deleted and then followed up with this in 3 tweets:

    (Haven't posted enough to be able to post links :p)
     
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