Next Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [2019]

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  1. JPT

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    Are not all files downloaded from xbox live/psn encrypted? Intel chips have hardware support I believe, so an AMD chip probably would want to have it to in some shape or form.
     
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    True...it's probably part of AMD's cpu's already...
     
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    That is correct:

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    And that's not even Zen.
     
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    Lots of uses for a cryptographic coprocessor these days, I'd think.
     
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    So the PS5 can solve puzzle games for me?
     
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    Could it have something to do with the patent that Sony has in regards to using blockchain for security reasons?
    Here is the patent that was talked about back then.
    I am not well versed with blockchain and what it can be used for, but I remember some articles about using blockchain to trade digital games(?).
     
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    Blockchain is only good for fleecing investors.
     
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    Obligatory flowchart(s)

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    Reading PSP hardware and AMD in the same slide made me shortcircuit.
    I spent a minute before waking up and understand.
     
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    I think 24GB gddr6 hinges on a global dram price readjustment. The price fixing scheme is crumbling.

    Maybe a long shot, but it' s not impossible gddr6 could be down to $5 per GB in 2020 or 2021.

    Something like...
    $399 = 16GB 10TF
    $449 = 18GB 11TF
    $499 = 24GB 12TF

    I honestly don't see anything below or above any of those ram amount, price points, or equivalent power. If they can't reach that they might instead delay another year.

    Depending how you calculate the ram with the ddr3 on the south bridge (16+4=20GB), and how you calculate the "power" of 8TF on paper with 16TF fp16 and other improvements and compute blocks versus older gpus. I call it 10TF equivalent.:runaway:
     
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    Is there any scope for them to use, say, 16GB GDDR6 on a 512-bit bus, then transition to 16GB HBM2 or 3 when that becomes cost effective?
     
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    Why not claiming 32GB HBM2, 16 core and 15TF while were on it anyway. No dreams will be shattered guranteed.
     
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    I don't think the flop counts are that far out there. ~12 isn't that big.

    The biggest issue is the RAM bandwidth not even the amount. 880 GB/sec would require a huge bus or very fast GDDR6. 24 GB of 18Gbps GDDR6 on a 384-bit would give you 864GB/sec. One that's expensive and two that grade of 18 Gbps GDDR would be on the very high end of the power consumption as well.


    I think a cut down 384-bit bus is possible, but not with 18 Gbps memory. I think the console will use something slower like a 14 Gbps variant so it doesn't have the run at the highest voltage.
     
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    South Bridge:
    32bit DDR4 @ 4233 = 16GB/s

    Main SoC:
    384bit GDDR6 @ 18gbps = 864GB/s

    864 + 16 = 880GB/s

    :runaway:

    Or some mix of ddr4 and hbm2/3 to add up to 880....
     
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    sigh duck. The gullibility of the internets.
     
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    It's a mix and match of all previous rumors together, that's why it doesn't add up.
     
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    Unless there's a sea change in how this board operates, it remains the responsibility of members to decide who to trust or not, exactly like this. As nothing hinges on the validity of any rumours posted, there's no need to vet posters. That is, unless you're daft enough to put a down-payment on a PS5 based on a rumoured leaked spec, it really doesn't matter whether he's an insider or not, nor whether the specs are valid or not. They're another bunch of possibilities to consider. The poster doesn't gain anything from fly-by posting either. Honestly, I don't see it matters and don't see why some would want the mods to vet sources, except to establish a trustworthy source of leaks to learn about hardware months in advance. Why is that important? Why not just wait until announcements?
     
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    We can always treat any and every rumor as a speculation to be analysed.
     
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    To me there is a big and clear distinction between people on here predicting hardware specs and analysing rumours...to claiming they have actual inside knowledge...
     
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