On the contrary,doesn't the fact that 90% of 360's being sold, are the higher priced Premiums bolster his arguement that the 360 is doing a bad job of appealing to casuals?
Newsweek : Redmond We Have a Problem. What wrong with the X360
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On the contrary,doesn't the fact that 90% of 360's being sold, are the higher priced Premiums bolster his arguement that the 360 is doing a bad job of appealing to casuals?
It's more likely they want retailers to get rid of their stock of old SKUs before a price drop and probably a new revision (may not be 65nm though).
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Not really, it simply illustrates that consumers do not consider the Core a good value, which we've known ever since the thing was intriduced.
The whole article is really very one sided, i.e, he harps on 360 for selling only slightly above xbox1 in the US, without mentioning the fact Xbox sold at $199 for the majority of that first year, or the fact that WW sales are way ahead of the original.
We as in we the hardcore understand it's lack of value?
Casuals don't see value the same way hardcore gamers do,that's what makes them casuals. I'm not saying I agree with everything the guy says but he makes some good points. Although I think he's being unfair when it comes to sales of casual games over XBLA. I understand XBLA sales are doing quiet well.
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We as in we the hardcore understand it's lack of value?
Casuals don't see value the same way hardcore gamers do,that's what makes them casuals. I'm not saying I agree with everything the guy says but he makes some good points. Although I think he's being unfair when it comes to sales of casual games over XBLA. I understand XBLA sales are doing quiet well.
Casual gamers buy at lower pricepoints, period. However nobody likes to be taken advantage of, it is at the very most a $60 difference between the 2 when you factor in the Memory card.
If Core was attractive at $299 it would be selling, as soon as MS puts an attractive package at $199 or $299 you'll see your casuals.
Exactly,and then they would be doing a better job of appealing to casuals.
$299 is not a casual price. Just because Sony launched WAY above $299 does not change the fact that $299 is above casual price. $250 is borderline. $200 is when you are solidly getting mainstream exposure. The reason the Core system is selling so poorly is that it is priced for the hardcore but lacks the hardcore options. In other words, it has no market.
When the Core gets dropped in price to match its options, then it'll take off.
When the Core gets dropped in price to match its options, then it'll take off.
exactly, ppl when faced with the $299 or $399 are choosing the more expensive.
, as ive said before price is not that important, desirability is the most important key factor.
cut the core xbox360 price to the same as wii $250 + after 2 weeks, the wii will still outsell it.
This has been my thoughts for a while. Nicely said expletive.
Same page here as well. You cannot offer a mainstream option at a premium price. At $199 and especially $149 the Core becomes very attractive. In 2008+ when consumers can get games like Halo 3, GTA IV, and their Madden fix for $149 it will seem quite attractive. $299 not so much.
As if any other company cares more for you as a customer.
WOW ... and people call me bitter toward Sony!
I'm sure you aren't alone _xxx_ as a matter of fact, add that to the antiAmerican sentiment and I'm sure that explains sluggish sales in quite a few cases WW for xb360.
sad to say that anti-MS, anti-USA sentiment is strong internationally and does explain some people's rigid positions with regard to some of our discussions. IMO
OTOH props to _XXX_ for coming out and saying it.
I truly hope that some can see that not all USAmericans are as shallow as we are portrayed on TV
:smile:Hey, I said nothing anti-US - just anti-MS!
The point is, they are to blame for my first gray hairs with countless flawed and stupid things they've done with windows and office so far. Countless nights of work due to losing data thanks to crashes and on and on. You all know the jazz.
I also have no problems with big corporations (working in one myself, hehe), but if I shell out money for something, I want quality, period. MS never delivered.
Other thing is "make every shite online-based and every machine dependant on internet connection". Then also the forced IE tied into every piece of SW etc.
So they always sold me crap which I was forced to use thanks to lack of viable mass-market alternatives and mass-compatibility.
Now that Apple is finally up to par HW-wise, there's no question I'm getting one.
The other alternative would be a PS3 with a linux distro so it would be an all-in-one solution.
The point is, they are to blame for my first gray hairs with countless flawed and stupid things they've done with windows and office so far. Countless nights of work due to losing data thanks to crashes and on and on. You all know the jazz.
I also have no problems with big corporations (working in one myself, hehe), but if I shell out money for something, I want quality, period. MS never delivered.
Other thing is "make every shite online-based and every machine dependant on internet connection". Then also the forced IE tied into every piece of SW etc.
So they always sold me crap which I was forced to use thanks to lack of viable mass-market alternatives and mass-compatibility.
Now that Apple is finally up to par HW-wise, there's no question I'm getting one.
The other alternative would be a PS3 with a linux distro so it would be an all-in-one solution.
sorry, _xxx_ didn't mean to imply you did. I guess I was just using it as an opportunity to mention it as well since they sometimes go hand in hand. Take care. :smile:
Actually, by market size alone, I think we could safely say you are in the minority.
true theres a lot of anti-americanism (im pretty pro-america as in who would u like to be the number 1 world power russia, china? ie the alternatives are worse, (ok the eu perhaps would be better))
true, thus that destroys the anti-americanism argument, ie in countries that are percieved to have a large AntiUSA sway, tend to have 90+% windows use.
ive read often in message boards that some ppl think ppl in asia eg japan/south korea etc wont buy the xbox cause its an american product. ok perhaps in japan this is valid with some ppl, wether due to buy japan made or anti-american, but in south korea etc with a strong anti-japan sentiment until recently (history leason theyve been invaded a few times by japan), consumers there are choosing a japanese product over an american one. why? better + more variety/niche gaming choices
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I can understand the hate towards windows atleast partially, but I don't understand why that hate has to carrie over to Xbox. It kind of reminds me of the saying "sins of the father" if you catch my drift.
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