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I probably just phrased it badly.
I didn't mean that motion tracking it's a necessity, I just meant that PS4 can't do it without PSE.
I posted EG article just as a reference.
For now is the only "reliable" thing I could find.
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I personally think that PSE should be bundled in every PS4 otherwise it could just suffer the same fate of Eye Toy and be ignored by developers.
I didn't mean that motion tracking it's a necessity, I just meant that PS4 can't do it without PSE.
I posted EG article just as a reference.
For now is the only "reliable" thing I could find.
EDIT
I personally think that PSE should be bundled in every PS4 otherwise it could just suffer the same fate of Eye Toy and be ignored by developers.
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What R&D? Sony has been playing with this technology for decades.
Bagel seed
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I hope it's included, just for the higher chance we'll see headtracking options made for all games.
This makes no sense. Your comment is in direct opposition to your objection. They've obviously been spending money on advancing the tech.
Official press release has a nice big section about PS4 Eye. I dont think they went to all this trouble just to offer camera as a separate purchase
http://us.playstation.com/corporate...r-for-ps4-dualshock4-and-playstation-eye.html
War Thunder dev mentioned PS4 headtracking in a recent interview.
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1943703/ps4_sony_is_more_open_looking_for_new_game_concepts.html
I'm saying they have Richard Marks and co playing around with this stuff for years. It is not some crash course R&D project for the PS4, it is part of Sony's DNA. Not to mention it is not vastly different than last gen's device or the one before that.
That press release says PS4Eye works with Move, yet Move isn't bundled. All that press release is really saying is the tech has been developed. That's nothing about what's in the box, what are accessories, what are free services and what are paid for. All that is unknown.
Oh well then obviously it doesn't count... /sarcasm
I'd be surprised if it's not bundled.
One of the biggest focus in the conference was Social features, so it would be a bit odd if they wouldn't bundle the camera for video chat. I'm sad they still didn't use a ToF camera (which they have patents for), but it's certainly an indication of trying to keep the cost down. I remember when kinect came out Richard Marks said he also wanted to use a depth camera but it would have made the eyetoy too expensive. It looks like a repeat of that thought.
Move was really impressive in terms of precision, but in terms of market, Sony doesn't seem to care about motion gaming nearly as much as MS does. Maybe E3 will change my mind, but my Move was used intensely for 6 months, and then no new games came out. Microsoft spend 500 million in publicity to push Kinect, and Sony didn't seem to spend much of anything for Move.
One of the biggest focus in the conference was Social features, so it would be a bit odd if they wouldn't bundle the camera for video chat. I'm sad they still didn't use a ToF camera (which they have patents for), but it's certainly an indication of trying to keep the cost down. I remember when kinect came out Richard Marks said he also wanted to use a depth camera but it would have made the eyetoy too expensive. It looks like a repeat of that thought.
Move was really impressive in terms of precision, but in terms of market, Sony doesn't seem to care about motion gaming nearly as much as MS does. Maybe E3 will change my mind, but my Move was used intensely for 6 months, and then no new games came out. Microsoft spend 500 million in publicity to push Kinect, and Sony didn't seem to spend much of anything for Move.
Bagel seed
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Thanks, I remembered reading about that but forgot the name of the game.
Article said:
So camera support is in definitely in for that game. Even if one of the sku's have the camera included that would be good enough for getting support I think.
(((interference)))
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A recent DF article (I think it was the one on mandatory Vita cross game support) mentioned PS Eye being a pack in.
Looks like it's not bundled, at least there's probably a bundle which doesn't have it.
http://www.gamechup.com/the-ps4-camera-will-be-sold-separately/
The end of the promo video of the DS4 has a disclaimer:
"PlayStation camera may be required and is sold separately."
Why would they say that if it comes with every box?
EDIT: I'm late to the party I'm I, I believe I deserve a facepalm
http://www.gamechup.com/the-ps4-camera-will-be-sold-separately/
The end of the promo video of the DS4 has a disclaimer:
"PlayStation camera may be required and is sold separately."
Why would they say that if it comes with every box?
EDIT: I'm late to the party I'm I, I believe I deserve a facepalm
That's what the past page of discussion has been about. You're late to the party.
A couple of news:
Sony's E3 2013 press conference is going to be the strongest in years. This sounds great and I can tell you that Microsoft are going to give them a run for their money, and stiff competition.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/06/e3_2013_sonys_press_conference_to_be_the_strongest_in_years
They say that the PS4 is a great system for MMOs. It is a quite MMO-friendly platform.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/06/sony_online_entertainment_ps4_will_be_a_great_system_for_mmos
Sony's E3 2013 press conference is going to be the strongest in years. This sounds great and I can tell you that Microsoft are going to give them a run for their money, and stiff competition.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/06/e3_2013_sonys_press_conference_to_be_the_strongest_in_years
They say that the PS4 is a great system for MMOs. It is a quite MMO-friendly platform.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/06/sony_online_entertainment_ps4_will_be_a_great_system_for_mmos
djskribbles
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I've never been so pumped for E3.
+1I've never been so pumped for E3.
This is going to be the most epic E3 in history. Sony and Microsoft launching a console at the same time. They're going to be bullish
(unless they mess up the press conferences, but that's doubtful)
Bagel seed
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So no Sony E3 conference thread sticky 
Can't wait to see FF15
Can't wait to see FF15
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