New Taito arcade syst. made of PC parts(Celeron, Rade9200SE)

[Farid]

The VHS tape is used as a "scale indication". No C64 revival.


Taito revealed their new arcade board the Type X, it's using PC parts (actually it's nothing more than a PC), the first setup is made with a Celeron 2.5GHz, a Chipset Intel 865G, and a ATI RADEON 9200SE, running a WinXP embedded, the developer could actually change the setup (like a normal PC), and upgrade the graphic card requirement, (it's the Arcade owner that will have to upgrade of course.)

Taito is saying that this new system was created to help reducing the cost of arcade games by 10/15%, and they also saying that the port of arcade games to consoles will be easy... And they're talking about the PS2(which is famous for its celeron and its directx friendly architecture, strange that they didn't talked about the potentials Xbox ports.)

There's 5/7 games being actually developed(using DirectX) for that board, it will be released this october(Japan first), Taito plans to sold 20.000 of Type X within this year(fiscal).

Link to Gamekult (Fr to En)

 

[maskrider]

Re: New Taito arcade syst. made of PC parts(Celeron, Rade920

The VHS tape is used as a "scale indication". No C64 revival.


Taito revealed their new arcade board the Type X, it's using PC parts (actually it's nothing more than a PC), the first setup is made with a Celeron 2.5GHz, a Chipset Intel 865G, and a ATI RADEON 9200SE, running a WinXP embedded, the developer could actually change the setup (like a normal PC), and upgrade the graphic card requirement, (it's the Arcade owner that will have to upgrade of course.)

Taito is saying that this new system was created to help reducing the cost of arcade games by 10/15%, and they also saying that the port of arcade games to consoles will be easy... And they're talking about the PS2(which is famous for its celeron and its directx friendly architecture, strange that they didn't talked about the potentials Xbox ports.)

There's 5/7 games being actually developed(using DirectX) for that board, it will be released this october(Japan first), Taito plans to sold 20.000 of Type X within this year(fiscal).

Link to Gamekult (Fr to En)

Gamekult should at least quote the source

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20040603/typex.htm

 

[London Geezer]

Urgh... We want Naomi3!!

 

[Megadrive1988]

what was Taito's last main arcade board, the G-NET used in Ray Crisis ?

 

[a688]

Urgh... We want Naomi3!!

no doubt. a 9200 SE ugh, they could have at least started off with the 9600 so there would be a faster baseline.

 

[zurich]

The PS2 is very Celeron friendly...? Why? Cause they both have little cache?

 

[Evil_Cloud]

The PS2 is very Celeron friendly...? Why? Cause they both have little cache?

I think that was meant as sarcastic.

 

[SegaR&D]

Taito is stupid

 

[Evil_Cloud]

Taito is stupid

Why?

Because they want a relatively cheap arcade board to develop titles that are easy to convert to console platforms?

Puzzle Bobble
Psyvariar
Shikigami No Shiro
...

Sequels.

what was Taito's last main arcade board, the G-NET used in Ray Crisis ?

I believe it was a custom System 246, but if you were to look at who developed it initially I would have to say the G-NET System. However, it could also be the Type-Zero or Scorpion board, but I don't have much information on those.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Is it just me or do those stats sort of sound like they'd make a suck-butt gaming rig? :?

 

[breez]

What a crappy hardware! Is this a joke?

 

[Evil_Cloud]

What a crappy hardware! Is this a joke?

It's the first setup, developers could actually beef up the specs.

Also, since it's basically nothing more then a pc, it's clear that this system was meant to be cheap for both production as software development.

 

[digitalwanderer]

I just remember being totally underwhelmed the last few times I've been to an arcade with my kids, the games on our PCs look a LOT better than them and I guess I just ain't used to that yet.

 

[Evil_Cloud]

I just remember being totally underwhelmed the last few times I've been to an arcade with my kids, the games on our PCs look a LOT better than them and I guess I just ain't used to that yet.

It's the arcade gameplay that still does the trick for me. I am still totally hooked to stuff like Star Wars Arcade or other golden oldies when I enter an arcade.

 

[Lazy8s]

Taito knows where they're headed with this one. They're one of the longest-running operations in the whole industry and have a large enough market to make use out of whatever budget arcade platform they come up with.

 

[digitalwanderer]

It's the arcade gameplay that still does the trick for me. I am still totally hooked to stuff like Star Wars Arcade or other golden oldies when I enter an arcade.

Me too, but those "golden oldies" were considered "cutting-edge" back in the day when I played 'em!

I think that's my problem. I was used to gaming on Atari/Genesis/PS1 and going to the arcade to see the really good graphics on the high-end games....the games at the arcade just blew away the consoles and the consoles tried like hell to just be half as good.

I didn't go to arcardes for a long time, then when I did I found the hadn't changed/improved anything a whole lot. They still use TVs as displays, I can't STAND TV used as displays! (Pixels the size of freaking dimes to me! )

It's just another weird culture shock thing of being old I guess, but I always felt pretty fortunate being born when I was. (Pong came out when I was about 6 and I still remember how cool I thought it was. )

 

[Farid]

I just remember being totally underwhelmed the last few times I've been to an arcade with my kids, the games on our PCs look a LOT better than them and I guess I just ain't used to that yet.

On the Technical side, actually you're right, Arcades are no more a technical showroom for high end graphic like it used to be (Naomi 3 could change that and bring the "wow factor" back where it used to be, in the Arcades ).
The most powerfull arcade system available now is the Chihiro which is mainly a Xbox, and therefore its wow factor is kind low since we have Xboxs in our living rooms today.
That sector is/was passing through crisis, now, (especially with Sega-Sammy) it shows some kind of ambition, ambition that the sector lost a long time ago.

It's the arcade gameplay that still does the trick for me. I am still totally hooked to stuff like Star Wars Arcade or other golden oldies when I enter an arcade.

That's so true, i'm still playing a lot with Daytona USA and with Sega Rally, the fun is still here.

what was Taito's last main arcade board, the G-NET used in Ray Crisis ?

As Evil_cloud already stated, their last board was System246, but their last "main" board were indeed G-Net.
We can also talk about the fact that Taito, like Sega used to have a high end board, and a low-cost board... Maybe with this Type X they changed their usual plans since Type X is highly customizable (from a Radeon9200SE with 256Mo of main ram to a X800XT/GF6800U with 2Gigs of main ram on the system there's a quite big difference).


OTOH imagine if a Arcade owner goes skinflint, and do not uptade all the board (let's say it buys a X800pro when the game is meant to be played on a X800XT, etc...), we'll see Arcade games that lags with slowdowns etc...
That will be quite innovative, i must say.

 

[Evil_Cloud]

OTOH imagine if a Arcade owner goes skinflint, and do not uptade all the board (let's say it buys a X800pro when the game is meant to be played on a X800XT, etc...), we'll see Arcade games that lags with slowdowns etc...
That will be quite innovative, i must say.

They will sell it as bullet time effects, mark my words.

 

[digitalwanderer]

EDITED BITS: Sorry Dave

 

[Fox5]

I don't understand why so many companies buy Intel, and crappy Intel chips too.
Retail athlon xp chips go for as low as $50, they're buying in bulk and could possibly get lower, and would outperform any celeron.
And why the 9200se? Couldn't they get a geforce 3 or 4 in there? 9200se is like geforce2 speed with...well radeon 8500 features, I think there would be better results from a 50%-100% increase in speed and only slightly less features. Surely a geforce 3 or 4 can't be more expensive, can they? Besides, save money with an athlon, more money for the vid card.(or even a duron would be better than a celeron, and durons start at like $20)


"The most powerfull arcade system available now is the Chihiro which is mainly a Xbox, and therefore its wow factor is kind low since we have Xboxs in our living rooms today. "

Triforce with Fzero AX is pretty impressive too. I'm more impressed by the console version of fzero gx than the arcade version of house of the dead 3 and crazy taxi 3(virtua squad 3 had some neat effects, but pretty low poly and poor textures, so it's not so good either), and fzero(the arcade version has slightly better graphics too I think) has 60 fps(which most console games don't have, though fzero on gamecube does but it sold poorly), and a cool external hardware gimmick, the other main draw of arcades besides the graphics. The deluxe cabinet(and the ride version) look really cool.

Maybe arcades can go back to those "snes in a cabinet" ideas and just have consoles with multiple games in the arcade. It would be cheaper, and better. Actually, six flags has a neat idea, take pcs, have some custom hardware, and charge to play pc games. Also tend to have 60 fps gameplay and crisp graphics, but I'd like to see someone do it better...better selection of games, easier payment method(tokens suck, paying an attendent sucks), and in some place that wasn't six flags.