Gradthrawn
Veteran
Works for me. However, so far as I'm aware, it does not check during the day. It checks once, at night (early morning), and that's it. Along with checking as soon as you turn it on, of course.
Works for me. However, so far as I'm aware, it does not check during the day. It checks once, at night (early morning), and that's it. Along with checking as soon as you turn it on, of course.
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Deleted member 11852
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Prior to this morning I'd not used the PS4 since Tuesday and the firmware was ready waiting for me. There was a notification prompting me to install it, which took about 15 seconds after which it restarted.
However no game updates downloaded until I installed the firmware. I'm guessing that because PSN will not let you sign in with old firmware, until installed new firmware, the console can't connect to PSN and grab game updates. I had a 500mb Battlefield 4 update and a Killzone update, however they at least immediately started downloading after the restart without any further prompting.
You can watch blurays etc. That came with the first big update. I'm just waiting for MP3 and DLNA support and all is parity again.
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Deleted member 11852
Guest
3D Blu-ray still isn't supported.
Is there any reason not to update FW transparently without requiring a notification and user permission? The only one I can think of is in case a crap FW update is released and people have the option not to install it. The solution to that would be Better Testing. If the FW releases are good, they could be downloaded and installed automatically, and you just switch on to a new FW. It'd then allow game updates to follow FW updates automatically.
Better testing is hard it seems, even on a fixed system like a console. FW updates occasionally bricked consoles in the past, same with cell phones and other gadgets with fixed hardware and updateable firmware...
Now, it's probably a bit much to expect the average user to keep track of if a FW release is good or bad, so I assume the reason that updating isn't fully automatic is to reserve some features to stick behind the PS+ paywall - or do even they not get automatic installs; only downloads? I've no idea, I have no wish to throw money at sony for something I do not need... Well, cloud game saves would be nice I guess, but I'm still not paying. *shrug*
Now, it's probably a bit much to expect the average user to keep track of if a FW release is good or bad, so I assume the reason that updating isn't fully automatic is to reserve some features to stick behind the PS+ paywall - or do even they not get automatic installs; only downloads? I've no idea, I have no wish to throw money at sony for something I do not need... Well, cloud game saves would be nice I guess, but I'm still not paying. *shrug*
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Deleted member 11852
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I wondered about this. But thinking about it there are very few instances where devices running complicated operating systems will update themselves without prompting the user and giving them the opportunity not to.
I think it is commonly used as a "last stand" security feature. By hard coding a local accept request into the firmware update mechanism, you can prevent a virus like program from installing a new firmware unnoticed from a remote location. It isn't a substitute for proper security, because most users will just click through without asking - but it is the same reasoning that leads to requiring the user to click accept when updating a windows program.
It also lets people who use the hardware for slightly different purposes (think the PS3 super computer farms) a chance to refuse updates if it would break their setup. I am not sure either applies to the PS4 of course, but I know that is the reasoning in some CE devices.
loekf
Regular
Lucky you. Mine is ok as well, but I still find the start-up procedure quite scary: first blue flashing LEDs, you see the white Sony logo, followed by white flashing LEDs and just stable white light.
Still scared it's gets stuck in during blue flashing LED ==> Blue Light Of Dead.
It also doesn't help that Sony tried to save on BoM costs by dropping the harddisk activity LED....
deathindustrial
Regular
Not sure if this is the best thread for this but Playroom streams are consistently crazy. Last night's festivities included a pimp showing off his stable of transexual sex workers and stack of hundreds all the while telling them not to get fully naked so he wouldn't get banned.
That's some live TV I haven't seen before, "Pink Flamingos" meets reality TV?
Cheers
That's some live TV I haven't seen before, "Pink Flamingos" meets reality TV?
Cheers
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Deleted member 11852
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I've never noticed but just turned mine on and it does the same.
Why? Ok faults come in all varieties but if your PS4 has been solid for a few weeks, it'll likely be fine for many years. I note that the stories of PS4 failures have subsided - just regular failures. Same with Xbox One.
I think it was a conscious decision. If they wanted to save on the BOM, why the elaborate LED bar on the top? Mind you I've been using Macs so long that the lack of a HDD indicator really doesn't bother me.
Why would they use this venue though?
Don't they have web cams and such for advertising this sort of thing?
Or maybe buying a ps4 and camera is easier to set up?
deathindustrial
Regular
Who knows. It was hard to tell whether there was a business motivation or if it was just a gamer enjoying the social aspect who also happened to be a real life pimp. My gut reaction is that it was primarily the latter though they were trying the occasional phone number thrown out by the Ustream rabble (which seems like a road to ruin if there ever was one).
=)
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RenegadeRocks
Legend
If all goes as planned, I will have it pre ordered today ! Sony is going to officially announce the price today, fingers crossed, as rhey had announced the ps3 at a super inflated price.
Release date is end of december, so not far.
Release date is end of december, so not far.
RenegadeRocks
Legend
PS4 price confirmed = $700 here ! We was expecting $600 including taxes, frankly. Hmm....WTH Sony. No Xbox 1 till late 2014 seems to have made Sony bolder here.
Launch date Jan 6th....
too far away !
Launch date Jan 6th....
too far away !RenegadeRocks
Legend
Here is India. Pricing has been fucked up completely. Games cost double than ps3 games, same for accessories and console is highly overpriced.
From what you wrote elsewhere, it seems as if PS3 games were remarkably cheap in India, and now games have been priced up to the rest of the world (~$70, £45, €50). The hardware pricing is definitely extreme though, but then Googlage suggests perhaps a 30% import duty on consoles. Sony were wanting it lowered back in 2008. That could explain why a £150 PS3 sells for £230 in India
You'll need to get to the economic core of the pricing before assigning blame.
RenegadeRocks
Legend
No, they weren't cheap in India for the ps3,they were on par with the world. They were dirt cheap for PC, to curb piracy, and we could get games for as low as $10 or $20, on PC. That has recently changed to normal and there was quite a lot of hue and cry by gamers on twitter.
The actual change that has occurred in currency is that earlier it was Rs45=$1, now its Rs 60=$1. Even if u consider those rates, the PS4 games are still overpriced. as $60= Rs 3600, but the games are being sold for Rs 4500, which equals $75...... And the console is over priced considerably, even when considering the duties and customs. But that was still expected, from the history of Sony pricing here. The game prices, however are not acceptable to the majority.
Anyways, My ps4 arrives on 6th jan. Will be booking my pre-order tomorrow. I am thinking of skipping KZSF and staying with my BF4 and AC4 till infamous or DC arrives.
EDIT: My guess is that they based the pricing on Euro or Pound and not on the Dollar. THat would explain the high price.
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