"New" Nintendo Switch (OLED Model) [2021-07-06]

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  1. orangpelupa

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    I've been following the progress here on GitHub.

    I have a Mariko Nintendo Switch but honestly have no clue how to install Atmosphère. I would like to test it out though, so if someone has a reasonable easy guide to follow without getting the unit banned from online content please share :)
     
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    AFAIK for Mariko switch, you need to use modchip, and the consensus is it is easier to detect by Nintendo than OG switch (that as long as you did not install nsp (including homebrew nsp) and did not cheat, it seems they won't ban you)
     
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    Does the eShop ever have sales on Nintendo published games?

    Like Mario and Zelda from the launch year are still full price?

    While Amazon had Mario for like $35 recently.
     
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    Yes, very rarely
     
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    Sure, they have sales.

    Check out dekudeals for recent prices.

    Otherwise you can buy Nintendo Switch Game Vouchers and get two games cheaper that way.
     
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    Back in October a patent Nintendo created in March of 2020 became public for a DLSS like process, "systems and methods for machine learned image conversion." You may be correct that Switch 2 will not use DLSS, but its likely that there will be some sort of image reconstruction implemented in the SDK. Dying Light on Nintendo Switch already implements an image reconstruction technique to get the final output to 1080p docked and 720p portable. Im sure Nintendo and Nvidia can create a very nice solution that plays nicely with the Switch 2 SOC.

    Agreed. The performance to power consumption ration is really good. Its a shame that Nintendo didnt start with the Mariko X1 from day 1.

    When you look at this, it really makes you wish Nintendo had started with the Mariko X1 at launch. Could have had higher performance across the board and still maintained better thermals and battery life than the launch Switch units had. Seeing the clock speeds they are pushing with these unlocked Mariko Switch units makes me think about the Switch 2. Ive been of the mind that Nintendo could use a direct evolution of the X1. Nintendo needs to upgrade the memory bus to 128bit, something they already did with the X1 Parker model. People keep looking to the successors to the Tegra X1 as a likely starting point, but they all start targeting the automotive market pretty aggressively, not making for an obvious choice for the Switch form factor.
     
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    System most likely targets 720p again for handheld but will have a 1080p oled screen. Use 720p to 1080p dlss and then dock mode will run higher at maybe 900p and dlss up to 4k. I expect an announcement the end of the next year with a release in 2023 now.
     
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    Screen resolution will likely depend on cost and energy consumption. If a 1080p OLED panel is double the cost of a 720p display Nintendo will surely stick with the lower resolution. Same goes with energy consumption, if the 1080p display pulls 2-3x the wattage it would be another reason to stick with 720p. I'm hoping for 1080p personally, on a 7" display even if its using image reconstruction, its going to look very clean. The Switch OLED already looks really nice with games that render native 720p and have some sort of AA. Nintendo's first party games that render native 720p in portable all look sharp, but very rarely implement any AA, so jaggies stand out.

    The Steam Deck has been nice to observe because it showcases that its still not easy to delivery lots of performance in a handheld. The Deck is a giant brick by comparison to the Switch, no way will Nintendo put out a Switch 2 that is that chunky. So it will be operating under tougher thermal conditions and wont be able to equip a big fat battery. I do not see the Switch 2 releasing any later than 2024, and really think there is a good chance for 2023, so the SOC has likely been selected/designed by now. The Deck is able to run hotter because of the form factor and the we already know AAA games will only run about 2 hours, with Switch 2 Nintendo will likely be shooting for at least 3-4 hours and with a smaller battery. Expectations should be kept pretty modest. I would look at what the mobile market SOC's can deliver with around 6 watts of power draw in portable as the likely performance Nintendo will deliver. There is pretty much no way the Switch 2 will match the Decks performance, and cost isn't the primary reason; form factor and battery life are.

    Nintendo should release Switch 2 at $399 for a Premium OLED model with more memory and a standard LCD model with less memory for $299. The ability to market the product at $299 is very attractive, even though the majority of consumers will ultimately gravitate towards the premium product. They could in theory be losing a little money on the standard LCD model that will be made up by the much better margins on the OLED model.
     
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