New Edge browser has much better memory management than Chrome
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Vivaldi, yes, I also tried it a long time ago, since I am choosing a new browser in this dev update, there is nothing to lose, it it's better than Opera and supports HDR, perfect for me. Isn't Opera Finnish or Danish though?
It was sold in 2016 to a Chinese consortium. Want to know what Opera is doing as a company now? Look up loan shark offerings via Opera.
I downloaded Vivaldi. It has HDR support, a nice interface and it seems as fast as opera, also like how they tell you how many bytes you download from a site. That being said, the interface is not as nice as Opera GX, nor it has a built-in dark pages feature, and I dunno if it supports chrome extensions -not a super big deal, but still- but I haven't checked yet. My 2nd browser atm, if those features I mention can be added could become my main one.
will do, out of curiosity
tried Vivaldi some more time, and it is fully chromium compatible, it even has the same dark pages setting. This is a very good feature. Still, dark pages mode is better on Opera GX than on Chrome, Edge and Vivaldi. Gotta test it a bit more, but still torn. I can live without Edge or Chrome though
Keep trying out Vivaldi. There's a lot of in-depth functions you can customize and many default features to explore even just around the visible interface. Check out gestures as well, I have some custom gestures for opening new private windows and links into new tabs setup.
Yes, it supports Chrome extensions.
I am using it as my default browser now, with Opera GX second and Edge third. Pretty content with it for now. iirc, it is from the original creators of Opera, or so I remember reading when Vivaldi first came out. If it doesnt work that well, Opera GX has been doing perfectly fine for me, it's not for the lack of alternatives.
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I had some performance issues that was getting frustrating the last few patches but with 3.7 that seems to be resolved now. Tabs and page load are considerably faster and inline with Chrome.
no major issues for now, however I noticed that playing video on either youtube or dailymotion is sloppy for whatever reason on Vivaldi, compared to Opera GX or Edge.
Dunno about the reason. My connection is far from perfect, just 20MB of internet radio, but it usually works very well on youtube and similar services, but not with Vivaldi, and it puzzles me. Also I miss the Force dark pages feature of Opera GX, but no other browser has that natively without recurring to "hacks" or extensions. Even if you do, the choices of color for forcing dark pages is much more beautiful looking and "accurate" in Opera GX.
I'm on YouTube daily and never have issues with sloppy video. I assume your hardware acceleration is turned on? Under Settings -> Web Pages you can also try turning off the Picture in Picture option for videos. I always have that off.
dunno with sloppy, but all chromium browser i have tried sometimes (i still cant pinpoint the cause) have performance degradation. But it is easiest to notice on youtube videos (dunno with other video streaming, i didn't use them) that looks stuttery and if you right click and show the stats, it got dropped frames.
never happen on Firefox.
The chromium browsers i use daily:
Chrome
Edge
Opera
because i multitask with lots of different work and its easier to me to group work A on Opera, work B on Edge, Work C on Chrome, entertainment on Firefox (because Dolby stereo to 5.1ch upmixing never work on chromium, dunno why)
never happen on Firefox.
The chromium browsers i use daily:
Chrome
Edge
Opera
because i multitask with lots of different work and its easier to me to group work A on Opera, work B on Edge, Work C on Chrome, entertainment on Firefox (because Dolby stereo to 5.1ch upmixing never work on chromium, dunno why)
There was a really popular addon for firefox that did that. I used it for years.
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And here I thought it was just my system. For me, this only happens when I full screen the video though. I can work around this in YouTube by using theater mode and then maximizing the browser window (not true full screen since you can still see the browser, but it's close). However, some sites don't have that option, so there's no way to see it except in the default tiny video windows ... or downloading the video. Bleh.
I understand why MS went with Chromium, but I wish they would have stuck with their own engine.
Regards,
SB
Yeah the original edge was very lightweight and problem free and feature packed with very nice annotation tools (it got a severe lack of extensions tho)
Do you mean Tree Style Tab? Which has the benefit of not only arranging tabs vertically but also in a hierarchy. Strange that something like this isn't built into all browsers.
in the end I am still using Opera GX 'cos of performance and a better dark pages feature. Might switch in the future, it wouldnt be the 1st time nor the latest
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EdgeHTML wasn't competitive on any level with its contemporary browsers. Rolling your own HTML engine means living with weird inconsistencies which is why most modern browser engines are derivatives of WebKit or Chromium (itself a fork of Webkit, which was a fork from KHTML).
When IE6 was dominant, it implemented such a mental interpretation of rendering HTML that the HTML standard was almost meaningless. Chromium is a solid HTML rendering engine. In the world of HTML rendering engines there are three technical imperatives: 1) Security, 2) Performance, 3) Memory efficiency.
You generally get to pick two. Chrome tries to pick all three, hence why memory efficiency is a known issue. But if you want 1 and 2, you need to compromise on 3.
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Tidbit for the latest MS Edge browser version:
Microsoft Edge release notes for Stable Channel | Microsoft Docs
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New Version Available - Sept 2, 2021
Version 93.0.961.38: September 02
Stable channel security updates are listed here.
Feature updates
Version 93.0.961.38: September 02
Stable channel security updates are listed here.
Feature updates
- Initial Preferences in Microsoft Edge. Microsoft Edge now supports a limited number of Initial Preferences (formerly Master Preferences). IT admins can deploy these settings as default before the browser is run for the first time by their users. Additional information here: Configure Microsoft Edge using Initial Preferences settings for the first run.
- IE mode on Microsoft Edge will support "no-merge" behavior. For an end-user, when a new browser window is launched from an IE mode application, it will be in a separate session, similar to the no-merge behavior in IE11. You will need to adjust your site list to configure sites that need to prevent session sharing as "no-merge". Behind the scenes, for each window of Microsoft Edge, the first time an IE mode tab is visited within that window, if it is one of the designated “no-merge” sites, that window is locked into a different “no-merge” IE session from all other Microsoft Edge windows at least until the last IE mode tab is closed in that window. This follows previous behavior where users could launch IE with no-merge and could also launch Microsoft Edge without no-merge via other mechanisms. Additional information here: IE mode troubleshooting and FAQ | Microsoft Docs
- New policy to stop implicit sign in. The ImplicitSignInEnabled policy allows system administrators to disable implicit sign-in on Microsoft Edge browsers.
- Policies to bypass ClickOnce and DirectInvoke prompts. We have updated our policies to enable bypassing ClickOnce's prompts and DirectInvoke's app for specified file types, from specified domains. To do this, you will need to:
- Enable ClickOnceEnabled or DirectInvokeEnabled
- Enable AutoOpenFileTypes policy and set the list of specific file types that ClickOnce and DirectInvoke should be disabled for
- Enable the AutoOpenAllowedForURLs policy and set the list of specific domains that ClickOnce and DirectInvoke will be disabled for.
- Tab Groups. We are turning on tab grouping which provides the ability to categorize tabs into user-defined groups and helps you more effectively find, switch and manage tabs across multiple workstreams.
- Hide the title bar while using Vertical Tabs. Get the extra few pixels back by hiding the browser's title bar, while in Vertical Tabs. Now you can go to edge://settings/appearance and under the Customize Toolbar section select the option to hide the title bar while in Vertical Tab mode.
- Video Picture in Picture (PiP) from hover toolbar. When you hover over a supported video, a toolbar will appear that allows you to view that video in a PiP window. Please note: this is currently available for Microsoft Edge users on macOS.
- Removal of 3DES in TLS. Support for the TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA cipher suite will be removed. This change is happening in the Chromium project, on which Microsoft Edge is based. For more information, navigate to the Chrome Platform Status entry. Additionally, in Microsoft Edge version 93, the TripleDESEnabled policy will be available to support scenarios that need to preserve compatibility with outdated servers. This compatibility policy will become obsolete and stop working in Microsoft Edge version 95. Ensure that you update affected servers before then.
