MS guarantees that Xbox 360 games will look better than PS3!

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That's irrelevent to the claim. He didn't claim that multiplatform games on the 360 would look better.

He didnt speak specifically about exclusive games either

I don't believe an "apples to apples" comparison was ever intended. It's just mroe convienient for PS3 fans to make because exclusive to exclusive comparisons, at least around the launch window is clearly on MS's side.

Thats your own assumption. We are talking about games in general avoiding wether they are exclusive or not

Oh, it's not that hard to say "this games graphics look great, while that one isn't quite as good" even if they are completely different game styles or genres. It's actually quite simple.

For instance, I think GRAW looks tons better than Ridge Racer 6.

You still miss the point here. I already said there is no reason to disagree that some games look better like for example GRAW vs RR6. As I said what the point was that he cant come up with the conclusion that 360 has the upper hand when PS3 titles of the same games get enhancements. Nothing less nothing more. This is an indication that devs get familiar with the PS3

I fail to understand what is the point you are trying to make. That 360 has an uper hand for real or that 360 is more capable?

See, that wasn't hard, nor unfair. Are they different games with completely different graphics styles? Sure, but what does that matter if the question is simply "which looks better?"

Problem is you just compared 2 different genres, that are available on the same platform.

Really? Care to name the PS3 launch game that you think has better overall graphics??

Reisistance looks miles better. Ofcourse that could be just me. Just as Kameo looking better could be just you. I can also name you a 360 launch game that impressed me more than Kameo too. COD2. Yeah I liked it more.
 
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I can already see many of the same Kutaragi bashers defending this no-name "Teversham" character on his antics this time.:rolleyes:


And I can see many of the Kutaragi apologists calling for lawsuits and such over these claims.

The door swings both ways.
 
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All this arguing base on one of the most provocative PRwe've seen for a long time is annoying.

For the first gen Ps3 and second gen xbox, all I can say is the only ms game that compete in developpement time is gow, most first gen ps3 title are in developpement for way more time than most of second gen xbox titles. ANd some of then are likely to miss chrissmass.

But I guess see always what they want.

Do the best looking games we will know soon now,no need of commenting PR, reality will hit in a month and something.

The only thing sure for me is that both system look close enought to me to make my choice base on game not on graphics, everybody should be happy, instead of fighting pointless pr..
 
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from a pure graphical standpoint I would still put Kameo against anything I've seen for the PS3 launch.

3roxor said:
Out of curiosity..which PS3 launch game do you think doesn't look better..?

Logically, i think that would mean ALL of them? Not that i agree, but from a linguistic point of view i think it's easy to see what he means.

I think Resistance has really come through and looks better than Kameo, from what i've seen.

But this is once again a case of "beauty in the eye of the beholder" so i'm not sure how fruitful this discussion can be...
 
*snip* I can also name you a 360 launch game that impressed me more than Kameo too. COD2. Yeah I liked it more.

Technically and artistically Kameo is way beyond COD2... however it is apparent that you prefer frenetic FPS'... thus you are talking a genre preference not a technical or artistic difference in reality. Whole different conversation.
 
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People calling out for Lawsuits over this must belong to a very different dimension... How would the case be fought?? Screenshots and videos as "evidence"??

Come on, get a grip. It's just silly PR, nothing more nothing less.

Soon Sony will come out with another silly comment on how Bluetooth makes games look better, and Nintendo will come out saying that Wii won't care about the graphics when we get our hands on their "revolutionary" games.

People need to realise that everything we hear or read from these people is PR. All kind of public speaking or press release is PR, meaning it goes through some analysis of what to say, how to say it and when to say it to ensure that people will be interested in your product.
 
Technically and artistically Kameo is way beyond COD2... however it is apparent that you prefer frenetic FPS'... thus you are talking a genre preference not a technical or artistic difference in reality. Whole different conversation.

Actually I dont own a single FPS. I am not a fan of that genre and never were.

I am actually the opposite. I tend to like games more when they have an artistic sense. I dont like the art direction of neither Kameo or COD2.
 
In this thread? "I would still put Kameo against anything I've seen for the PS3 launch." I want to hear you name specific titles but you probably won't..


As i explained, logically if he says that nothing on PS3 is on the same level as Kameo, the answer you'll get is: All of them don't look as good as Kameo.
 
Do you own or play a 360 regularly?

If you play through Kameo, techinically and visually it has moments where it is amazing...from particle effects to parallax mapping to sheer numbers of enemies on screen... add to that that the game was done a year ago... and mostly not on final hardware

If Kameo launched THIS year given the same extra time as PS3 launch titles... it most definitely would BLOW everything in that genre out of the water but hey it already does that and its a year old...

Same goes for you. I'm not going to debate this highly speculative stuff you wrote there.
 
He didnt speak specifically about exclusive games either

No, he made an overall statement, which means the obvious comparison is the best vs. the best, not the worst vs. improved versions of the worst.



Thats your own assumption. We are talking about games in general not wether they are exclusive or not

No, you are flat out wrong here, and I'm assuming that since you edited out the first part of that statement that you already know exactly why you are wrong.

We were talking about using only multipletform games in order to get an "apples to apples" comparison. Excluding the exclusive games. You are obviously well aware of that, which is why you had to edit out the comment before making your claim that I was assuming something.

Clearly I wasn't assuming anything, and you are just trying to make a defense through creative editing, rather than debating the truth.

Lame.



You still miss the point here. I already said there is no reason to disagree that some games look better like for example GRAW vs RR6. As I said what he was point it as is that he cant come up with the conclusion that 360 has the upper hand when PS3 titles of the same games get enhancements nothing less nothing more.

Try that again and see if you can be more clear next time.

"As I said what he was point it as is that "

WTF??? What are you trying to say here?

I fail to understand what is the point you are trying to make. That 360 has an uper hand for real or that 360 is more capable?

That I agree with the original claim made by the MS rep. All of it, not just the first sentence which was quoted. (Slightly out of context I might add)

Problem is you just compared 2 different genres, that are available on the same platform.

Problem is you apparently don't know the difference between an example and a point.


Ofcourse. Reisistance looks miles better. Ofcourse that could be just me. Just as Kameo looking better could be just you. I can also name you a 360 launch game that impressed me more than Kameo too. COD2. Yeah I liked it more.


Nobody asked which you like more, the whole issue revolves around graphics. Pure and simple.

And you can't seriously be trying to say CoD2 had better graphics than Kameo.
 
In this thread? "I would still put Kameo against anything I've seen for the PS3 launch." I want to hear you name specific titles but you probably won't..


Yes, I answered that in this thread. And if you would read my posts then you would realize why I'm not going to bother making a list.

And if you were really clever you might just figure out not only my answer, but why I expect you to come up with specific examples if you wish to deny my statement.
 
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