MS ensures this gen and next gen dominance

Any pizza that's delivered is always shit. They use the worst low-grade oily cheese and the sauce is almost ketchup. The only way to eat it is to find a real sit-down pizza place that isn't catering to five-year-old children. So, not Pizza Hut.

Such real local italian pizza shops also deliver pizzas here and they aren't made any different with real cheese and not this american cheese from the tube crime. There's nothing better tasting than pizzas made in italian mafia money laundering shops by their parked hitmen:)
 
Why don't you order from the good place then?

My experience is that there aren't any places that do good delivery pizza relative to what I can get in a proper pizza restaurant that doesn't deliver. Maybe other cities are different.
 
My experience is that there aren't any places that do good delivery pizza relative to what I can get in a proper pizza restaurant that doesn't deliver. Maybe other cities are different.

Spumoni here in LA. Best pizza I ever had, even my Italian in-laws like it :)
 
Actually there is one family owned real NY-style place here that delivers. They're really slow and expensive but very, very good.
 
I'll remember that the next time I go to visit a friend of mine in LA, and I won't even have to share with her because she's vegan.
There are vegetable pizzas, afaik.

Anyways, if she is silver she can't eat pizza.
 
I remember good vegetarian pizza but there was definitely cheese on it, including goat I think (hmmmm)
I you have vegan friends, tell us that by having fecal matter spread in the fields and bees pollinating them, they're guilty of animal exploitation when they eat vegetable and cereals.
 
My experience is that there aren't any places that do good delivery pizza relative to what I can get in a proper pizza restaurant that doesn't deliver. Maybe other cities are different.

In my experience there were pizza restaurants, a bar restaurant, and also tiny house/cabins directly on the street where you could get good pizza and come back home to eat it.
No scooter fleet or tiny car to deliver you, walk your ass both ways if you want to deserve it :oops:

There's also the pizza truck. They make pizza themselves with real ingredients and real cheese, and the pizza sucks (that was an untalented guy at the outskirt of the village where I spent my kid years)
In my city, delivery pizza is not that bad though. It's expensive enough.. just decent if you don't make a bad choice.
 
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In my experience there were pizza restaurants, a bar restaurant, and also tiny house/cabins directly on the street where you could get good pizza and come back home to eat it.
No scooter fleet or tiny car to deliver you, walk your ass both ways if you want to deserve it :oops:

There's also the pizza truck. They make pizza themselves with real ingredients and real cheese, and the pizza sucks (that was an untalented guy at the outskirt of the village where I spent my kid years)
In my city, delivery pizza is not that bad though. It's expensive enough.. just decent if you don't make a bad choice.

An awesome pizza place opened about 5 minutes walking distance from me. It's the most dangerous thing ever. It takes a lot of willpower to avoid the place.
 
I think "pizza" comes from the Pissaladière, which had no cheese and amazingly no tomato, but had the salted anchovies. This comes from Massilia and Nicae (smug way to say Marseilles and Nice)
Ultimatimely the word comes from latin piscis, i.e. fish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pissaladière

Not so amazing that were was no tomato, as that was before tomato, as a New World fruit, got there. I wonder if, instead of an italian dish that came to America, pizza tomato was an American dish that came to Italia.
 
Looks like a pie to me, but you clearly never had Chicago Deep Dish before...

Deep dish is more like a tart/quiche than a pie - and the vast majority of pizza around the world isn't deep dish style anyway.

Ever heard of sweet potato or pumpkin pie? There are a ton of pies that have no crust covering.

It's a baked dish with a pastry base, so pizzas fall rather conveniently under the definition of pie.

Though the terms are sometimes used interchangeably there seems to be a distinction between a pie and a tart:
From Wiki:

A pie is a baked dish which is usually made of a pastry dough casing that covers or completely contains a filling of various sweet or savoury ingredients.

A tart is a baked dish consisting of a filling over a pastry base with an open top not covered with pastry

And I wouldn't say pizzas have a pastry base, it's more like bread than pastry.
 
"Apple pie" gets translated to "tarte aux pommes" and vice versa.
It's true that a "tarte" in French isn't enclosed at all most times, but a tarte can be partially enclosed as in the "tarte aux pruneaux" (pronounced like tart o prüno)

tarte-aux-pruneaux.jpg


The completely enclosed tart would be a "tourte", which is often a salty dish rather than a sugary one and is the american "pie" when taking the strict sense as you do.
 
Deep dish is more like a tart/quiche than a pie - and the vast majority of pizza around the world isn't deep dish style anyway.



Though the terms are sometimes used interchangeably there seems to be a distinction between a pie and a tart:
From Wiki:


And I wouldn't say pizzas have a pastry base, it's more like bread than pastry.

Pizzas used to be sweet. Heck, tomatoes werent introduced to Europe until the discovery of Americas.

A pizza can be described as a fat reduced pastry with a fruit and diary based filling AKA a pizza tart. In England is Chip Ahoy! described as a brand of chocolate chip biscuits?


Since the topic does talk about MS ensuring dominance, I think MS could if it focus some on entertainment production and not just consumption. I love the ideal of MS providing a suite of production utilities revolving around entertainment. Game developer software, music based utilities and using Kinect to make machina would be a really attractive feature to a large swath of different groups.
 
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