Movie Reviews 2.0

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dresden, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. Malo

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    Yes, that's true. Especially anime where there's like three total animations for speaking.
     
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    Wonder whether we'll ever see something as balls-to-the-wall impressive as Akira out of Japan. Is Akira even considered to be an Anime? It employed none of the usual cost-cutting strategies you can even see in the big budget animes of today. Like lower animation framerates and limited facial expressions above all else. Even Ghibli movies or films like Your Name use these short cuts. Seems like the makers of Akira either had limitless funds to pay armies of Disney animators or maybe they just enslaved them.

    And it's not just nostalgia speaking here either as I've watched it again just a couple of weeks ago. It holds up.
     
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    That’s interesting. Can you elaborate on those shortcuts and how is Akita different? Pretty please?
     
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    Don't forget that some of the different frame rate stuff is also done for stylistic reasons, at least in case of a movie like Spirited Away it is. I also wonder how much more expensive more frames would be these days as I presume nobody is creating actual cells anymore and instead do everything digital.

    That said I do believe Akira had much higher budget than anything other anime movies created around that time.

    Don't see why you wouldn't call it an anime or animation movie as that is exactly what it is. A animated movie.
     
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    A great many scenes (not all though) in Akira are actually animated on ones. Meaning one discreet frame of animation for every displayed frame in a 24fps feed. Usually anime tops out at 12 animation frames per second. And that's for the high quality ones. 8 fps is fairly common for cheaper productions. Background objects go as low as 6 fps. This isn't necessarily a bad thing as timing in 2d animation is a lot more important than the sheer number of frames being drawn. It's a lot less work intesive though.
    Another thing is the way dialogue between characters is handled. Akira's characters properly move their mouths in sync with the dialogue. They are hardly ever stationary during dialogue sequences either and never have their backs turned to the camera in order to obscure the fact that there's little to no animation happening at all.



    Nice video essay detailing the technical underpinnings of Akira.

    Really unfortunate that we'll probably never get a second Akira movie. The first one has a nice conclusion, but it only covers the first half of the manga series.
     
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    Wow I had no idea. Really need to put that DVD back in and give it a whirl.
     
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    Get the blu-ray.

    Also, the manga becomes pretty crap pretty fast.
     
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    The Blu Ray is great. I never read the manga myself. Not a big comic book reader. Still curious how it all ends.

    Kazuhiro Otomo (the creator of Akira) did make another film a decade-or-so later: Steamboy. It's also quite beautiful, but it didn't really work for me.
     
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    Heretic ! Blasphemer !
    Why do you think it becomes pretty crap ?
    It's my favorite manga, and something I recommend to everyone. I just love the second half-part.
    About the movie, I watched it again last year, and it's great. I disliked it first, because I thought it was a bad adaption.
    But the animation is top notch, many memorable scenes, and the ending is still satisfying considering the run-time.
     
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    It really well drawn pointless destruction. Also, nothing about Akira (either manga or anime) feels "real". Compare Akira to Otomo's masterpiece Domu and the differences are startling!
     
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    Thanks to the Oscars, Parasite was re-introduced to movie theaters here in Thailand, so I saw it yesterday. Yeah very good. I went in knowing absolutely nothing about it. No trailers or anything. I was expecting different type of parasites, but this one was a great piece of work on many levels.
     
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    yeah parasite is great, its a mix of genres but not a muddle.
     
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    If you haven't seen it, you should also check out The Host by the same director. What he can do with a family narrative and a situation like in The Host leaves Hollywood monster movies to shame.
     
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    Parasite wasn't what I was expecting at all.
    I'd had the impression it was a timely pandemic movie.

    It actually reminded me a lot of the last Korean movie I saw years ago.
    About a guy who wound up living secretly in an apartment with a girl by standing behind her & mimicking her moves.

    Well shot, interesting perspective but once I realised where it was going it got quite predictable & I found the ending rather disappointing.
    Still better than the vast majority of what comes out of Hollywood...


    Jojo Rabbit, pretty good but not amazing, Taika Waititi quirky but rather uncomfortable with the tragi-comedy laughing at/along with nazis thing.
    Probably an only watch once.
     
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    1917...a great watching experience.
    To me the continous style felt very much like watching a 3rd person adventure/shooter.

    Build your team
    interact with NPC...Colin Firth
    Get orders...Get some kit.
    Walk a bit, chat to your mate.. dialog gives some backstory.
    Interact with an NPC....Andrew Scott
    Come across an interesting place (german dorm etc)
    Explore
    Have an unexpected event...trip wire...go thru a pre-determined sequence...crumbling tunnel, jump a gap, get out
    Walk a bit more
    Come across another interesting pace (abandoned place)
    Explore...gather milk
    Have an inexpected event...plane crash...fight...
    Have an interaction with an NPC ...Mark strong
    Use a vechicle. Notice how there's several large vehicles and dozens of men, but neither "playing char" notices them, they just 'appear'

    Come across an interesting place (building after broken bridge)
    Have an unexpected event....deal with sniper
    Get knocked out (a common 'time-passing' technique in games)
    Come across an interesting place
    Have an interaction with an NPC...woman with child...use milk gathered earlier...no real addition to the story line except she tells you to follow the river
    Have a fight
    Get carried down river....nicely in keeping with what the NPC said
    In an exhausted state, have a semi halleucinagenic (sP?) experience..merest sound...walk towards it, entire paltoon of soliders listening in complete silence to the dulcent tones of a squaddie singing some somber tune...
    etc

    Now it could be said that you can analysis a lot of the same genre like that, but the filming style made it very much a twitch-esk experience IMO.

    I'm assuming the camera work extensively used drones, give how bad the landscape was in places, and how steady the camera follow, and the way it moved just inches above people and places.
     
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    yeh 1917 is a technical achievement. the sounds are also very effective
     
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    Yes.
    I'd love to see like an aerial shot of the area they used for filming.

    Its also basically 'Saving Private Ryan but in WWI' & that was the weakness, it just makes no sense to send a brother on a near-suicide mission to try to save their brother like that.
     
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    Guns Akimbo. Enjoyable popcorn stupid violence brain turned off comedy movie with Harry Potter actor Daniel Radcliffe and The Babysitter actress Samara Weaving. Similar to Nerve, but doesn't take itself seriously at all.
     
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    I Am Mother. Really interesting story about girl who's being raised by an A.I. in a bunker in some form of a post apocalyptic future. Great and thoughtful film. Also another showcase for top notch special effects in what was probably a pretty low budget movie.
     
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    Yep it's quite good on many levels. Have you seen this?

     
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