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I for one had no problem with edge ending like it did, it simply didn't matter enough for me to spoil the awesome movie. Imho the rules were crazy as is
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I for one had no problem with edge ending like it did, it simply didn't matter enough for me to spoil the awesome movie. Imho the rules were crazy as is
Sigfried1977
Legend
^Not all plotholes are created equal.
Here's the thing. By no means did this ruin the film for me. Heck, maybe I simply missed something and the ending made perfect sense. So, if someone could actually explain what the hell happened there I'd really appreciate it.
Here's the thing. By no means did this ruin the film for me. Heck, maybe I simply missed something and the ending made perfect sense. So, if someone could actually explain what the hell happened there I'd really appreciate it.
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Yes, that "makes sense".
As far as these crazy ludicrous hollywood action juggernauts go, anyway...
GREAT MOVIE, by the way! Edge of Tomorrow, I mean. I really rather liked it. A lot! It has action, it has pressure, it has suspense. It has a bit of everything that you want in an action spectacle. No sexy scene between hero and heroine though (if that's your thing), and no comic relief sidekick - thank grud for that.
(The aborted fetus of that dies repeatedly when a gunship suddenly drops on his head, haha...! )
)It pushed all my buttons, apart from not being a super crazy Tom Cruise fan, because his level of intensity can get a bit much sometimes, but what the hell! You can't have everything, right? And he really is rather good at the action hero role, and actually got to work a bit as an actor in this one too, his character has a genuine arch, which isn't too common in action movies. There's often some remnants of "the rise of the hero" trope in most action movies, but it's usually really badly executed, think Green Lantern here for example. This movie on the other hand did it really well, I think.
So there's a bunch of plot holes. So what. You don't really notice them (I think) if you just lean back and enjoy the movie; none of them are any more egregious than what you'll find in 1986 timetravelling classic Terminator, for example. As another poster said, it's pretty much unavoidable.
One plothole I haven't seen mentioned yet is
when Cruise's character dies for the first time he is covered in alien blood, which supposedly gives him his superpower (of being able to die repeatedly, hah). However, when the day resets he hasn't been covered in alien blood yet, and in fact isn't covered in alien blood from then on out (except at the very end, of course), yet he retains his superpower.
It's still a great action movie. The effects are great, sound is excellent, and so on. Really good popcorn-munchable action movie, I highly recommend it. I'm really surprised it seems to have bombed so bad at the box office, because it really really doesn't deserve it. Make sure you see it, if you haven't yet. It's absolutely one of the best explode-a-ramas released this year.
tongue_of_colicab
Veteran
I don't think that's a plot hole.
The way I understood it is that if he dies the day resets, but his ability (and memory, skills etc) stays unless he gets donor blood or something.
yeah, that's the way the movie explains it, but without the blood actually IN his system (since the alien never died all over him on day 2 onwards), how could it possibly work? (Well, it wouldn't of course since timetravel by donating blood is impossible, but talking in-universe rules here, heh... )
)The movie handles its subject matter in a relatively novel way, IMO. There was "Groundhog Day" as mentioned, and ST:TNG's "Cause and Effect" for example, but the basic plot still feels fresh in action movie form.
Wut? It seems to have earned $369,206,256 on a budget of ~$178,000,000. Is that now considered a bomb? It made more than twice its budget, which in this case is a lot of money.
Oh? Well I read something about it not doing very well in theatres, and it was claimed that's why they half-and-half changed the title for the home release ("Live Die Repeat")... Maybe it was US ticket sales that were sort of meh-like, and the movie did better internationally?
Indeed.
Domestic: $100,206,256 27.1%
+ Foreign: $269,000,000 72.9%
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=allyouneediskill.htm
Funny that $100,000,000 is disappointing these days.
Bear in mind that is box office sales, not the amount the distributor receives. It seems that a little over half the box office sales will go to the distributer. I think the general rule of thumb is that you should be aiming in the range of 3x the production budget in box office sales to recoup the production, marketing and distribution costs. A lot of movies only see profitability through merchandising and subsequent physical / electronic distribution and TV airing.
Just finished X-Men: Days of Future Past tonight. Was great. Don't have much to say about it other than that. Others might want to nitpick, I really don't see the point. I don't know my Marvel stuff well enough to do that anyway, heh, and the movie was quite well-put-together, so I don't have much to add myself. Maybe
This is my one minor gripe, I guess.
Really great movie anyhow.
Wonder how fucked Singer's rep is tho despite how good the movie turned out, after all that gay rape shit went down a couple months ago... *shrug*
I don't know my Marvel stuff well enough to do that anyway, heh, and the movie was quite well-put-together, so I don't have much to add myself. Maybe
Magneto getting shot in the neck, which ought to have torn out some major blood vessels, yet he flies outta there only minutes afterwards completely unaffected and unconcerned, while Mystique's been limping around for about half the movie at that point after "only" taking a low-speed bullet hit to the calf...
Really great movie anyhow.
Wonder how fucked Singer's rep is tho despite how good the movie turned out, after all that gay rape shit went down a couple months ago... *shrug*
He's already working on X-men: Apocalypse as a director, so his rep seems to be okay. The actual case seemed like a lame money-grab attempt from the start IMHO. On the other hand, well, I wouldn't put my hand in the fire for the guy, but then again all Hollywood people must be like that anyway.
The point is that he makes reasonably good movies that make a lot of money - and that's what matters for the studios.
The point is that he makes reasonably good movies that make a lot of money - and that's what matters for the studios.
Edge seems to be doing well on that front, though - lots of people buying the BR and it'll probably do well in TV as well.
As for the paradoxes, the novel has a more robust explanation... There's no actual time reset, the aliens only have the skill to explore possible futures from a point forwards. Only when things seem to go well for them do they actually stop the projection of possible timelines and commit to the one that benefits them the most. It's a bit more complicated though, but the book is cheap enough for anyone interested to buy
and it also builds up a different ending that makes a little more sense. Not a happy one though.Well, yeah, you're probably right. Except for Superman Returns, which was rather dull, really. Interesting Lex Luthor take IMO, but forgettable in most every other way.
Anyway, lots of corporations tend to be schizophrenically pragmatic like that - on one hand, Fox News regularly promotes a lot of xenophobic, homophobic crap, but 20th Century Fox doesn't mind employing a gay director making profitable movie extravaganzas.
Sigfried1977
Legend
I just don't think reasonably good is quite cutting it anymore in an age where Marvel studios are basically hitting home run after home run. I quite enjoyed Days of Future Past as well, but it was no X-Men First Class, Guardians or Wintersoldier as far as I'm concerned.
I had completely missed Edge of Tomorrow so thanks for reminding me, just watched it and loved it.
In unrelated news... NEW OMFG TRAILER HOLY CRAP AVENGERS NEW TRAILER IT'S HERE WTF ULTRON I'M DYING BYE
In unrelated news... NEW OMFG TRAILER HOLY CRAP AVENGERS NEW TRAILER IT'S HERE WTF ULTRON I'M DYING BYE
Looks A-MAZE-ING!!!
Trailer seems to be painting a darker tone to this one the original Avengers.
I wonder if Thanos appears in this one at all. With the announcement that Cap 3 appears to be playing along to the "Civil War" plotline I wonder if Marvel are keeping the more interstellar threads at bay for a while, letting GoTG get more involved with Thanos and introducing the Inhumans through Agents of SHEILD.
I wonder if Thanos appears in this one at all. With the announcement that Cap 3 appears to be playing along to the "Civil War" plotline I wonder if Marvel are keeping the more interstellar threads at bay for a while, letting GoTG get more involved with Thanos and introducing the Inhumans through Agents of SHEILD.
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