Mobility Radeon 9000

[Joe DeFuria]

Glonk,

By your logic we shouldn't have seen any Radeon 9700 benchmarks until it was on store shelves, but I don't hear you complaining about that?

Oddly enough, We DIDN'T see any actual benchmarks until the very day that the 9700 shipped. So what would there be to complain about?

We also did get RELATIVE benchmarks a month earlier...at the very same time the product was publically and officially launched, and "minimum" clock speeds were given, as well as expected shipping date, and price.

No one was complaining about the 9700 launch, because no one reported 9700 benchmarks in any form until the product was officially announced.

 

[Ichneumon]

I've been told that that the NV28M (the "mobile ti4200") tom mentions coming out later this year will only be available in "desk-note" notebooks, i.e. ones that don't run on battery power, and ATI has a "desk-note" variant of the M9 that runs at much faster clock/mem speeds (275/275 is expected right now, but it could go higher).

Then Tom goes on to allude to the mobile Nv3x chips due next spring... but conveniantly forgets to mention that ATI's M10 will be there waiting. An interesting way to spin an essentially missed generation for Nvidia's mobile division.

All in all a silly M9 review from Tom. Don't expect to see the GF4Go 460 in many notebooks anytime soon... From what i've heard, Nvidia has done a pretty good job of botching up getting things ready in time for this round of system designs.

Not exactly been a banner year for Nvidia.

 

[Joe DeFuria]

I think it will come down to a factor of price.

Oh, and I almost forgot...

Which package do you think might end up being cheaper...the one with 210 Mhz DDR, or the one with 290 Mhz DDR?

 

[Bjorn]

Just want to say that i would choose the R9000 M anytime.
And as Joe said, it will probably end up being cheaper because of the slower RAM.

If you compare the chips on a power consumption level however, Mobility Radeon 9000 is the best offering out there right now. This will most likely ensure that the new mobile ATi chip will earn the majority of design wins in the near future. However, the 3D benchmark scores of Mobility Radeon 9000 are disappointing, there is no denying that.

I would think DX8 also would ensure a couple of design wins. Maybe even more then the few % lower power consumtion. Tom seems to want to hide that fact somewhat.
But i agree that some of benchmarks are somewhat dissapointing.
On the other hand, Anand's test shows another story (UT2003) and we also have the words from Carmack.

Then Tom goes on to allude to the mobile Nv3x chips due next spring... but conveniantly forgets to mention that ATI's M10 will be there waiting. An interesting way to spin an essentially missed generation for Nvidia's mobile division.

I agree. I would have been ok with it if he would have only talked about the NV28.
But chips coming out next spring (and then conveniently forget about ATI's upcoming stuff) ?
That was to much for me also.

Although, if you're buying a laptop to play Doom3, well, then you should probably wait until next spring so maybe that was what he was thinking about