Did you miss the multiple posts of mine with direct quoting of the report.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/08/23/saudi-arabia-microsoft-activision-acquisition/
we know how far some are.
Microsoft acquired Activision Blizzard King for $69 Billion on 2023-10-13
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we know how far some are.
Beyond US, UK and Saudi Arabia.
US and UK are at the same stage, only Saudi Arabia has passed it that we know for sure.
So that's far from only UK saying no which they haven't actually done.
So your whole premis was wrong.
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Neither the UK, EU or US, have made a final decision. The US entered their second stage review last month, which is exactly what the UK and EU are also doing. I guess that makes all three "squeaky wheels". You have some mighty big opinions and views for somebody who is seemingly so il-informed about what regulators are doing what and what their actual processes are.
The approvals received have been from markets where Xbox has a relatively small market and where this isn't an issue and none of these matter in the slightest. The last I read China still had not determined whether Microsoft need approval (Xbox being a small market) and the EU has also called for additional evidence.
But you continue to live in your fantasy land that only exists in your head
PlayStation: Xbox's Call of Duty offer was "inadequate on many levels"
PlayStation calls Xbox Call of Duty offer inadequate
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PlayStation: Xbox's Call of Duty offer was "inadequate on many levels"
PlayStation calls Xbox Call of Duty offer inadequate
Yes , I am sure anything other than full exclusivity for Sony would be inadequate. Even if MS decided to continue publishing the game on the playstation it would be obvious that the marketing rights would be with MS and that it would be a game pass title most likely with exclusive game pass content coming to it. The contract like any contract would only be for a fixed number of years cause well that is how all contracts work. You then renegotiate in the lead up to the contract ending.
I don't know why Jim would deny a deal to extend COD on PlayStation for 3 years beyond what the current deal is. This would likely run through the entire generation. So many are calling Jim out for this too.
I don't know why Jim is publicly telling gamers that PlayStation isn't a suitable console for playing COD. This has to be the most inept action a CEO can take for a company.
I don't know why Jim is publicly telling gamers that PlayStation isn't a suitable console for playing COD. This has to be the most inept action a CEO can take for a company.
No, that would be raising the price of the console two years after launch.
I wonder what the rational behind this is. I am trying to think of possibilities.
The MS deal they are offering is insane with a very low % of the sale price going to Sony ? Maybe it was like 30% and MS wants to give 10 or 15 ?
Maybe the offer is normal but with MS having the marketing for xbox and exclusive dlc and Jim is trying to squeeze out more ?
If the deal is a run of the mill deal to release on the PlayStation then it might actually hurt Sony in the long run because Ms can point to this and be like listen we offered a reasonable deal with I dunno just exclusive dlc and marketing left out but Sony said no. At the end of the day MS can't force sony to allow the game on playstation and at the end of the day I think it be hard to convince a regulatory body that MS having purchased Activision would have to provide sony with marketing deals and exclusive content.
But hey this is just getting more interesting.
The MS deal they are offering is insane with a very low % of the sale price going to Sony ? Maybe it was like 30% and MS wants to give 10 or 15 ?
Maybe the offer is normal but with MS having the marketing for xbox and exclusive dlc and Jim is trying to squeeze out more ?
If the deal is a run of the mill deal to release on the PlayStation then it might actually hurt Sony in the long run because Ms can point to this and be like listen we offered a reasonable deal with I dunno just exclusive dlc and marketing left out but Sony said no. At the end of the day MS can't force sony to allow the game on playstation and at the end of the day I think it be hard to convince a regulatory body that MS having purchased Activision would have to provide sony with marketing deals and exclusive content.
But hey this is just getting more interesting.
I believe that Brad Smith's interview with CNBC and his press release superseded any conversation they might have had. Jim really should not have given something that detailed. Phil already said several. Jim should have left it at that.
The conversation might have happened before Microsoft had settled on what they would be able to do with such a large purchase. Phil might have thought at the time that they would be able to go fully exclusive three years after the contract expired. Maybe after doing some number crunching, they found COD too big to leave such a significant base out. It's part of why they are talking about bringing it to Switch though I fully expect be an xcloud trojan horse to make that possible. Microsoft could afford to make Bethesda exclusive, but with ABK, they might not be able to do so...unless there is a significant shift in the market.
The conversation might have happened before Microsoft had settled on what they would be able to do with such a large purchase. Phil might have thought at the time that they would be able to go fully exclusive three years after the contract expired. Maybe after doing some number crunching, they found COD too big to leave such a significant base out. It's part of why they are talking about bringing it to Switch though I fully expect be an xcloud trojan horse to make that possible. Microsoft could afford to make Bethesda exclusive, but with ABK, they might not be able to do so...unless there is a significant shift in the market.
MS never took Bethesda exclusive. Nor did they make Mojang games exclusive. Minecraft Dungeons came out on Playstation and Switch. And even games like Doom 64, an IP that was acquired with Bethesda, was digital only on Xbox, got physical releases on PS4 and Switch. Some games will be exclusive, yes. But it isn't like Sony wasn't going after Bethesda games as exclusive before they were acquired.
I was saying that Microsoft could if they wanted to take Bethesda totally exclusive, ABK really seems like a bridge too far based on how the market looks right now.
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He's clearly and desperately trying to appeal to regulators.
Whether or not it has any actual effect remains to be seen.
Whether or not it has any actual effect remains to be seen.
Only, THIS time what Ryan is discussing is regarding the release of the game on other platforms. Also Activision as a Third Party was open to both companies for some limited exclusive deals, but now it is all under one company indefinitely and fully under exclusivity.
and i just want Cods to come to gamepass....
sensible people does, but a quick look at playstation subreddits... people agrees with jim. some even says phil was lying when saying COD will still go multiplat for several years, as it turns out "several" means just 3 years (after current agreement). very weird.
I doubt MS cares about the money COD brings in. Activision as a whole brought in 8.8B in 2021 net and it was their biggest year ever
Activision 2021 earnings: Best year ever, record revenues and income
Activision just delivered two consecutive years of record-breaking growth with $8.8 billion in net revenues through 2021.
www.tweaktown.com
Microsoft on the other hand
- Microsoft annual revenue for 2021 was $168.088B, a 17.53% increase from 2020.
- Microsoft annual revenue for 2022 was $198.27B, a 17.96% increase from 2021.
It's going to be the same for any purchased developer. Nixes wont be open to opportunities for limited exclusive deals with MS or Nintendo anymore. Same with Bungie. MS could have paid up to take marketing and exclusive content deals away from Sony but that wont be happening now. Even in the infographic that Sony/Bungie released they only promise Destiny 2 will stay on all platforms. It doesn't say anything about new games and last I heard the last expansion for destiny 2 is this year or early next year.
But if MS offered a sensible 3 year deal for COD I don't really see the issue. I am not sure how long a typical contract for third party releases last but 3 years for COD is roughly 3 games and if they already have another 2 -3 titles under the marketing agreement than that would bring you to the end of this console generation.
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I would also say that MS can actually slow down COD releases since they now have an abundance of shooter franchises. So who knows if COD will even stay a release a year title.
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What I think Jim and the boys are missing is the vested interest Microsoft has in keeping COD multiplatform. Revenue aside, one of the easiest ways to make a service or platform valuable is to have the same content elsewhere with a price tag on it. Especially if it is a frequently released franchise. That is why I personally think the most valuable game on Gamepass right now is MLB The Show. If baseball is your thing, it makes a hell of a lot of sense to rent it for a year than it does to buy it every year. Unless you really want a collection of old sports games.
COD could easily fill that role for shooter fans.
COD could easily fill that role for shooter fans.
Does MLB have an ultimate team loot box bullshit like other sports games? That's where the true expense is for most who want to play competitively online. Not the base cost of the game.
But does COD have purchase content that exists through all copies of the game ? At the end of the day with COD over at MS you can literally get it on xcloud that would let you run it on any windows pc , andriod device , ios device and tv along with xbox consoles or you can purchase it on steam.
If this deal goes through you'd have the option of buying the game if you own the ps5 for $60 or if you don't own the PlayStation you can buy it and the game. or you can subscribe to xcloud and not only get COD but all the MS/Bethesda/Activision/Blizzard games.
Even as a PC gamer its beginning to become smarter to get these types of games on game pass because its cheaper and additional content I might buy will be available where ever I play
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