Make graphics card upgrades easy, stick em in like cartridges?

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When I looked at images of the "new" Gx2 from Nvidia it gave me an idea. A lot of people find opening up their computers to be a scary process so why not do upgrades though expansion ports along the side of the case?

My idea of how it works would be to have a standardised case/motherboard format so that a graphics card can be installed and powered without opening up the case, and instead all the consumer would have to do is undo a thumb screw and pop it in. The only difficult part would be inserting the cd and running the install software. I invision that the whole process be doable without even shutting off the computer, just make it so once the computer is restarted the whole system boots off the card rather than the IGP.

Once the graphics card is in, it replaces the opened slot along the side of the case so there is nothing more the consumer has to do. It would require power to be supplied off the motherboard, directly through the PCIe interface and maybe a power socked. It doesn't have to be an expensive solution, infact it may only cost a few cents in extra materials once volumes are reached.

Not all graphics cards would have to be like that, only the consumer level mainstream ones. My hope is that making it simple will make more of the graphics market mainstream. This can only benifit all players in the market, but especially AMD and Nvidia.

This is just an idea, I hope we can have a good discussion on this.
 
It's not something that I am in a position to make any money on! I just hope maybe someone from ATI/Nvidia sees it and pushes for it to be included in the next standard. Maybe PCIE 3.0/3.1?

Honestly IMHO it would REALLY help the PC games industry and graphics industry and thats why we are here arent we? PC gamers?
 
Heck I hate to post a million times in my own thread...

I think it would be an excellent way to improve on the idea of hybrid xfire or sli.

Mulciber: Are you talking about having an external module like an external HDD? That could work as well. Very well even. Actually I think your idea makes more sense than mine! :p
 
That's actually a pretty cool idea. If the card is outside the case, it could help cooling and allow easy installation.

My current HP has a slot where I can just pretty much shove a USB harddrive into it. It's an extremely simple process.
 
The installation of a graphics card now is: 1.) Undo a thrumbscrew and take off side panel. 2.) Unscrew and unhook current card. 3.) Push in new card and power plug and screw it back. 4.) Return side panel.

I'm sorry, but making the installation easier (which your suggested method is not that much easier, and would actually hurt the visual aspect of the system. Which is very important in marketing) would hardly make a difference in computer hardware after market sales. Nearly anyone interested in such upgrades either has a friend who is at least a non-moron with computer, or will have a store do it for a fee. That fee is not going to be enough to deter anyone from the process if they were already willing to take on the other fees.

For those thinking cooling... unless it has a active means of pushing air over it outside then it wouldn't help either. Also if it does have a fan on it that will increase the systems volume and could be a potential hazard.
 
For those thinking cooling... unless it has a active means of pushing air over it outside then it wouldn't help either. Also if it does have a fan on it that will increase the systems volume and could be a potential hazard.

Well, there are passively cooled cards and they work well enough. Just think how much better now that it's outside. Plus, I never said to get rid of the fan. Some high end cards just can't be cool enough with passive cooling, so it must use a fan. Just think: a video card that can warm up your room in the winter, while you're playing games! :D
 
Well, there are passively cooled cards and they work well enough. Just think how much better now that it's outside. Plus, I never said to get rid of the fan. Some high end cards just can't be cool enough with passive cooling, so it must use a fan. Just think: a video card that can warm up your room in the winter, while you're playing games! :D

Passively cooled cards work well inside a system because its inside a closed box with airflow. If you placed the card outside with no active means of pushing air over it the card would likely overheat. I also addressed the fan issue, as being outside the case would increase noise levels and could be a possible hazard. You'd need to develop a fan filter that is easily removed and cleaned as well.
 
Interesting idea, but for me, I have to admit it doesn't offer much.

The cartridge might impede cooling (unless there is a fan) and you might need more juice to the PCI-e slot since some cards ask for extra.
 
My initial idea was, slide off cover. Insert graphics card. It was that simple. Don't have to open up the case, don't have to void the warrantly. I want it to be as simple as plugging in a DVI cable. It's not for the high end card, just for a $50-60 card that doesn't justify a $40 labor charge. The type of card thats passively cooled and goes well with hybrid SLI or Xfire. Enough for a kid to play the latest strategy games or maybe a few FPS's at a low price. Like the Wii is the gateway model for a lot of people this generation.

Having it outside the case would be a good implementation of IBM's new optical link interface. No latency beyond the bus. A perfect implementation for graphics on a laptop computer. Heck it could work really well a part of a docking station.

So there you have it, installation as simple as putting in a NES cartridge or having a external graphics card (With an optical link interface) and mount it anywhere. Heck, even on the back of the LCD would be fine.

Edit T.Y just for entry level passively cooled cards. That need less than 75 watts. Think of a plastic cartridge open on the ends so that anyone can pick it up and insert it.
 
Entry level cards offer nothing to the consumer really but in extremely rare cases. Most of the time people buy into PC gaming or they don't with the purchase of a computer. To be honest you could make the system now with a slide off plate on the side panel and just have a path that lets you slide the card down in the system. The current system already works much like a cartridge, except you take off the entire side panel. I still don't consider your suggestion a improvement though. Something external is messy, risky, etc. Something internal still has this over riding "fear" apparently.
 
I remember back in the late 90s Popular Mechanics had an article about an intel competition for a new PC format.
Most of them were just colourful little cases but one was a fully modular, cartridgised PC which I thought was awesome.

The base contained mobo & power supply and had cartridge style expansion slots around the top.
CPU, RAM, long term storage (presumably Flash or similar), network and GPU came in different shaped & coloured cartridges.
Whole thing looked kinda like a sci-fi future city.
 
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Back in 1998, Rendition and Micron tried to launch a modular and upgradeable single socket (EDRAM) graphics platform, "Socket X", that was to be an open industry architecture defining the interface between single chip graphics accelerators and PC mother/add-in boards.

IIRC, there were no third party interest, and as Micron's own PC efforts were starting to wind down at the same time; it never made it to any shipping products.
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The problem with such an idea is the in all probability, the added cost of such an 'external slot' solution would far outweigh the revenue from potential aftermarket upgraders who are also unable or unwilling to install a traditional graphics card. Even if the PCIe signaling spec were robust enough to allow for some proprietary solution to function, I highly doubt it would be economically viable. I also doubt enough people see an immediate need for a ePCIe kind of setup outside what's already offered by ExpressCard[*] for the standards proposal to go anywhere soon.

But what do I know... It's out there, so maybe the market will prove me wrong.

[*] Several companies have shown such solutions (see below), but AFAIK none with any mass market potential. There are also a couple of proprietary notebook docking stations with PCIe slots.
 
New interface development (multi-million investment, years of work) just for the two and a half people who are too lazy to open the case? How ridiculous is that?
 
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