Had to take KoTOR back today. It was just getting old to me. Maybe it's the painfully akward combat system or the AI glitches (getting trapped in a corner by a party member). On the other hand I loved the story and great voice acting but man I just could'nt go on further. Anyways, I see it doing maybe 400,000 units mabye a half million. That's pretty respectable for a SW game these days.
KOTOR - 250,000 in first 4 days
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Am I the only one who didn't think too highly of KOTOR? Friend brought it over, played for 10 minutes and I wanted to turn it off.
He brought his xbox over a few days later(his has his safe file not mine) showed me different areas and I still wasn't having any fun with it. Thought it was decent.
Unless maybe I need to play it more, but from what I played I just wanted to turn it off.
He brought his xbox over a few days later(his has his safe file not mine) showed me different areas and I still wasn't having any fun with it. Thought it was decent.
Unless maybe I need to play it more, but from what I played I just wanted to turn it off.
Paul said:
Paul ... this is very very much a pc rpg . Very indepth . Not your tipical final fantsy or square game (which have depth but no where near as much as this) So if your not into games like morrowind , never winter nights , ultima's . You most likely wll not like this . if you are a fan of rpgs in general you should prob rent this adn spend a few days playing it to see if you can get into it . I've been playing it on my friends xbox and can not wait to get this for my pc .
And why are you catagorizing me as a new school final fantasy gamer?(ff8-10 fans, to a lower extent ff7)
I have played my fair share of PC rpg's and personally I find KOTOR to be boring.
I'm into PC rpg's, I just find KOTOR boring and clunky.
Although maybe I'll borrow it off the friend when he get's done with it. He did borrow my final fantasy chronicals..(ff2+CT) he owes me.
I have played my fair share of PC rpg's and personally I find KOTOR to be boring.
I'm into PC rpg's, I just find KOTOR boring and clunky.
Although maybe I'll borrow it off the friend when he get's done with it. He did borrow my final fantasy chronicals..(ff2+CT) he owes me.
I thought KOTOR was brilliant, but I figure everyone's gathered that by now 
First 5-6 hours are fairly slow, but once you become a Jedi stuff really REALLY picks up.. and some worlds are better than others (Koriban/Sith world is awesome).
I could see how some would give up after the first little bit, but that's really not doing the game justice. I've beaten it twice already, first as a neutral char (ended up getting the light side ending), and second time as pure evil. Need to do it a third time as a female char so I can jump Carth's bones
I see the AD&D rule set as a barrier for the casual gamer, which may hinder its sales somewhat, despite actually being very robust and a perfect match for the SW Universe.
Anyhow, I'm expecting 500k, hoping for a million. IMO it rivals FF X overall (despite being oh-so-very different), and is one of the top few games this generation.
First 5-6 hours are fairly slow, but once you become a Jedi stuff really REALLY picks up.. and some worlds are better than others (Koriban/Sith world is awesome).I could see how some would give up after the first little bit, but that's really not doing the game justice. I've beaten it twice already, first as a neutral char (ended up getting the light side ending), and second time as pure evil. Need to do it a third time as a female char so I can jump Carth's bones
I see the AD&D rule set as a barrier for the casual gamer, which may hinder its sales somewhat, despite actually being very robust and a perfect match for the SW Universe.
Anyhow, I'm expecting 500k, hoping for a million. IMO it rivals FF X overall (despite being oh-so-very different), and is one of the top few games this generation.
notAFanB said:
I hope you meant rival in terms of sales since FFX doesn't campare well with KOTOR.
and yes the barrier to entry is unavoidable so far and 'will' throw casuals off, mostly because of working commitments
er, I meant overall as an RPG experience it rivals FFX, despite being very very very different "RPGs". Very different.
Paul said:
Never said you were . I have no clue what games you like . I said its much more indepth than a final fantsy game . I also said if u don't like games like morrowwind , never winter nights and thsoe kind of games you wont like this . I never said what you did or didn't like . I jsut gave examples of what the game is like compared to some very popular tittles. To see how it compares to the types of games you like . Which you can base off of what i said.
Ingenu said:
Except for being credited with resucitating the cRPG market with Baldur's Gate back in 1999
Unless BioWare ate your wife and raped your baby, I think it's a bit of a stretch to state the above. We all have opinions on developers and such, but you have to atleast be able to recognize the accomplishments in the ones you don't like. While I "dislike N" and realize their games "aren't for me", I would never say "= no fun, no quality graphics, nothing at all". That remark is pretty much patented by Enter the Matrix! Afterall, they did REINVENT TEH WHEEL!@
When talking about Baldur's Gate, at least the PS2 Dark Alliance, shouldn't we be talking about Black Isle Studios rather than BioWare Corp.
Or is there anymore Black Isle Studios (as there is no more Interplay, or is there?)?
What is the deal with BioWare, Black Isle Stuios and Snowblind Studios? Who has med what games? What team is behing SW:KotOR
Personally, I never got into PC Baldur's. I never got far in it, mainly due to the combat system (maybe I should've levelled up more in the beginning by killing those rats over and over again).
Also I found it very disapointing that the world felt so small. I know once you'd go to the town and dungeons there would have been much more to explore, but the world map was just few creens across, and just didn't feel right.
BGA on PS2 though was quite good, especially technically it is still one of the finest games.
But it also had some of the flaws that made it sometimes boring and repetitive to play. Maybe it is the lack of emotive impact and drama that games like Final Fantasy # have.
Or is there anymore Black Isle Studios (as there is no more Interplay, or is there?)?
What is the deal with BioWare, Black Isle Stuios and Snowblind Studios? Who has med what games? What team is behing SW:KotOR
Personally, I never got into PC Baldur's. I never got far in it, mainly due to the combat system (maybe I should've levelled up more in the beginning by killing those rats over and over again).
Also I found it very disapointing that the world felt so small. I know once you'd go to the town and dungeons there would have been much more to explore, but the world map was just few creens across, and just didn't feel right.
BG
A on PS2 though was quite good, especially technically it is still one of the finest games. But it also had some of the flaws that made it sometimes boring and repetitive to play. Maybe it is the lack of emotive impact and drama that games like Final Fantasy # have.
Johnny Awesome
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IMO Star Wars: KOTOR is the best console RPG of all time. Sure Panzer Dragoon Saga and Skies of Arcadia aren't too far behind, but KOTOR is the better game. FFX had a horrible story and was very generic, but otherwise I thought it was pretty good too. Grandia II is another consideration because of the combat system, but the story fell apart half-way through.
jvd said:
i guess it comes down to taste matey...
*checks the list of oh-so-objective posts JVD has done*
Yes. Johnny had mentioned it in the post above.
Myself, I'll go with Planescape: Torment. ^_^ Though I enjoy the spectrum of RPGs differently in their own ways.
Myself, I'll go with Planescape: Torment. ^_^ Though I enjoy the spectrum of RPGs differently in their own ways.
