KK comments

That is irony but both companies talk bs. Sony said MS wouldnt have games, MS knocked sony for having weak hardware. Now MS has games and now sony has better hardware. What's gonna be up the gen after new 8)

 

KK in 2001:

"Retailers in the US are already disappointed. Retailers told me that on a dollar base, they expect 70 percent of their sales to come from PlayStation. The remaining 30 percent will come from Nintendo and Xbox but almost all of that will be from Nintendo."

Reality in 2004: In the US XBOX has 35% of current gen sales, PS3 has 39%.
According to NDP

 

meh, everyone trash talks, at least we have something to talk about. Its the same with Gates saying iPod and iTunes will fail, and then just recently we see Microsoft starting a music service.

 

North American market aside, how about the whole, Asian and European markets factored in?

 

That was just for the year 2004, to clarify. Overall the figure is much more heavily weighted toward Sony. It's not 70% overall for PS2, more like 60%, and obviously the remainder has been split in Xbox's favour more than Nintendo's. Overall retail dollar per platform is probably a different figure from hardware sales however..

Marketshare per region as of the end of 04 is:

US:
Xbox: 23.5%
GC: 18%
PS2: 58.5%

Europe:
Xbox: 13.1%
GC: 10.8%
PS2: 76.1%

Japan:
Xbox: 6.8%
GC: 15.2%
PS2: 78%

 

No matter how much I respect Kutaragi, these comments I can agree are BS.
After all why if not for games (or interactive fiction or whatever) would SCE put so powerful hardware for - 3D processing - in their consoles?
I can't think of any other consumer application that requires that sort of power.

Everybody plays games in various forms, young and old, he or she, and always has. It's simply a trait of human nature.
Games are halfway between fiction and toy, some more than others to either side (It's interesting to observe, that when they get to close to either of the those poles, they start to suck).
I don't see why KK thinks "game" and "toy" are demeaning words. Many people take sport very seriously and what are products such a sailboats, sports cars and expensive stereos but toys?
Playstation 3 is a toy!

 

2001 again..

Sony was going at this entertainment computer thing from long ago. they just can't seem to pull it off though.

not him, but still:

 

I think he dislikes the it being refered to as a toy because theres technological feats that are being done with all consoles. People but all there time and attention into creating these consoles. Putting the PS2, XBox and Game Cube on the same level as a rag doll or a toy Tonka Truck is probably seen as spatting on the work the engineers have done to get this consoles to working conditions.

So yeah...I can see why he dislikes the toy reference...

 

Whats the point of this whole thread? X said Y and B was the outcome, instead of what he/she originaly said. This can be applied to any PR person, KK just sticks his ass out to the public more than other people. I've learned to wait for the outcome and just glance at what is currently the RUMOR or LEAKED INFORMATION, that should be applied to J.Allard or any other person that has stakes in their own company.....

This whole thread is pointless and its beyond me on how its been open this long

 

Well, they do. Halo and Halo 2.

A little thin after that though.

 

I'm surprised this thread is still open. Its the kind of junk that has made other forums trolling grounds. Hate to leave this one.

 

My God, it's attracting the Sony Bashers from far and wide! Someone'd better close this quick before the whole internet starts visiting the 'smart' forum to post/read anti-Sony muck, the Thread reaches critical mass, implodes in on itself and takes the whole forum with it

 

I do not know about that, it seems some people's banter is entertained more than others. Hell, I had a thread locked up not even on ONE minute, that is some very efficient, swift moderating. On that note, it is kind of a dream that I can refer to this one, something indeed similar to my rant....Some are charmed I guess.

My point exactly, maybe they need a hardcore, ninety, MS and Sony mod each respectively. Casue I noticed this awhile now. I guess its lonely at the top(Sony)

Oops Ken..........................eggfaced

Preach Geezy preach

 

OK... this thread will much more likely get locked now as it is getting personal.

From my perspective, it is good to have a "public BS" bashing thread now and again, just to remind ourselves and them (if they bother reading) of the obvious fact that someone still remembers even after 4 years of all the bs being spewed around a product launch, be it Sony, MS, Intel or else...

still KK has to be one of the most outspoken hypsters out there, him and Steve Jobs - it's a tie for the top spot ...

 

Kind of like you?

 

I don't doubt for a second that KK can spin stuff and twist things to fit an image but there are alot of people guilty of the same thing being posted in this thread. Like I said, KK gets all the rap because hes so outspoken about the stuff, Its partially his fault but in the end its the viewers fault if he/she digests what she/he heard as factual without any real proof. It doesn't affect my personal life in any way. I put more credence and disgust in a politition lying than KK, but this is the wrong forum I guess. Everyone needs to stop crying and start to think objectivley, and wisely choose between what they think is reality or something to reel you in.

Everyone acts like their family was forced into poverty because KK said things that didn't pan out..blah...pointless thread

 

If you want to get banned then keep on insulting other members. Makes no difference to me.

What's the matter? Is KK your daddy?

 

Ithink too a lot of what KK says is lost on most listeners because they don't understand his philosophy. I agree some comments are 'way out there' and wrong (like anyone can do, especially in an interview when responding to an unexpected question) but I also think he sees things differently and speaks rather poetically, not straight-down-the-line. eg. XB1.5 comments weren't downplaying XB360's hardware capability, but suggesting XB plays to an existing of what a console should do, whereas he's aiming for something 'bigger'.

But it's a futile debate. Those that hate won't consider things from a different perpective. Better to slag off that which you don't understand, rather than try to understand it...

 

When you're right you're right.