Killzone Prerendered E3 Trailer Talk

Well, I guess that's better than having it in the RE5. Still though the whole topic would be better off 'de-energized' somehow. Too much emotion wrapped up in here. (Mckmass for god's sake they're only games, you'll be fine. )

Also word is that English is not your first language, which is good to hear, but your sig would read better if it read: "People can mature quite a bit in just a few years." As it stands now it's sort of garbled.

 

There are HD res screenshots floating around...

 

dubert,

Do you think that something like Ati's Toy Shop Demo could be achieved in real time with in the context of a game? By that I mean with the addition of characters and physics etc..

 

Yeah they are games, but I spend my hard damn money on them. And I don't want to spend close to $500 a year over top of spending at least $400 for a console that gives me dimishing returns. If the PS3 can't get close to producing what I seen in the KZ video then Nintendo will have a new console buying with the Revolution. I want a real next-gen expirence not some little normal maps upgrades.

Though I will say I will like to see what HS looks like before I give up on the meaty next-gen machines and go for a lesser one instead.

 

Image quality tells you a lot, too, don't you think so? Even if LW's AA isn't the best...

 

What you mean "a console that gives me diminishing returns"??

Diminishing returns is an effect that will inevitably happen as time goes by. It's already clear that the difference beteen PS1 and PS2 was bigger than PS2 to PS3, and the difference between PS3 and PS4 will be even smaller. It's not because PS3 is crap, it's because of diminishing returns. If you don't like it, there's nothing you or we can do about it. After a certain point, it will take an exponentially larger amount of system resources to get the noticeable differences with each generation.

That's why focusing on the hardware is just useless, like i've been saying for bloody ages. The good stuff will be in the way the artists and animators make games. It will all depend on the art and the movement of the games, not technicalities.

But you people don't listen to me, keep arguing over MSAA and HDR and Blast Processing...

 

You are either selectivly reading posts or you have misunderstood
more than 30% of what you have read so far. The reasons were
clearly outlined and implying that someone is immature and
unprofessional for calling a spade a spade and then exercising
the care and consideration to explain themselves to the depths
of which dubert has done here is unexcusable fight-trolling imo.

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I called it immature and unprofessional because his cause was simply to 'bring the light' to those who were waiting for the PS3 based on this trailer. No one here needs that kind of help, AFAIK. Do *you* Tesselator? I didn't think so. Plus on the professional level alone, talking down the 'efforts' of a client of the company whos project you have worked on, or your company has worked on, just isn't a very professional thing to do.

I don't have a problem with a spade being called a spade, I have a problem with the manner in which that fact is addressed and presented. And frankly I think your post is out of line accusing anyone of 'troll-fighting.' Dubert hasn't gone to any great 'depths' either IMO, but he's shown himself to have skill in the art, no doubt.

Dubert and I are getting along civily enough, and he explained already how this thread came into being. I'm not sure why you feel you must take it on yourself to defend him when he's already defended himself.

PS - And quit indenting your posts.

 

You need a time out. There's no need for you to act so hostile to someone simply telling the truth. If you can't handle it, well that's your problem.

 

What is the 'truth' I can't handle QRoach?

 

Yeah I agree, it shouldn't be considered realtime - never did I say otherwise. But still, this is a discussion that's already been had here in the past.

I don't have an issue with you Dubert, I just take issue with your motivation in starting this whole thing. I don't even disagree with anything you've said, but when your initial sig is simply to aggravate the fan***s and your stated claim is to kick people out of their supposed PS3 trance, I mean that's just not a constructive way to start off discussion.

Dubert you seem like someone who can contribute to this forum quite constructively, so don't take anything I've said the wrong way. I just hope that in the future you won't view fans of a certain console *on this forum* as zombies that need enlightening.

 

Well just saw the cell demo again and here is what was said:

"... uses only the cell processor to render volumetrically all of the performance required to simulate an explosion, thermodynamics, heat, gas, smoke, fire this is not an animation this is not something an artist created this is all purely physics based... heat haze and gasses emitted by the simulation accurately represented on screen..."