Kameo Lands Her Own Motion Picture?

Of course other people can do CG animate dmovies, however is people really think that Ice Age etc. are in the same league as Pixars best they are saddly mistaken. What really set Pixar aprt from most film makets let alone CG film makers is the ability to write a bloody good script, and create character peopel care about. They are great film makers because they have great stories to tell it has very little to do with there technical abilities. Shrek 1 and 2 are decent enough films but they still fall far short of say The Increbiles.

Kameo i honestly think in just about anyones hands would probably turn into a rather generic shreky type affair since the story etc. while sounding fine for a game has got enough in it to generate a feature film.
 
lefizz said:
Of course other people can do CG animate dmovies, however is people really think that Ice Age etc. are in the same league as Pixars best they are saddly mistaken. What really set Pixar aprt from most film makets let alone CG film makers is the ability to write a bloody good script, and create character peopel care about. They are great film makers because they have great stories to tell it has very little to do with there technical abilities. Shrek 1 and 2 are decent enough films but they still fall far short of say The Increbiles.

Kameo i honestly think in just about anyones hands would probably turn into a rather generic shreky type affair since the story etc. while sounding fine for a game has got enough in it to generate a feature film.

Shrek 2 was atrocious. One of the worst things i've ever seen or heard since i started seeing and hearing things. And not from a technical point of view.
 
london-boy said:
Shrek 2 was atrocious. One of the worst things i've ever seen or heard since i started seeing and hearing things. And not from a technical point of view.

Really "puss in boots" was the "cats ass" errr " the cats meow" errr I mean made a lot of people enjoy shrek 2 more than the first.

"The incredibles" was the best animated feature in years imho but the game sucked...
 
lefizz said:
Of course other people can do CG animate dmovies, however is people really think that Ice Age etc. are in the same league as Pixars best they are saddly mistaken. What really set Pixar aprt from most film makets let alone CG film makers is the ability to write a bloody good script, and create character peopel care about. They are great film makers because they have great stories to tell it has very little to do with there technical abilities. Shrek 1 and 2 are decent enough films but they still fall far short of say The Increbiles.
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Too few movie makers know how to work all the facets into a gem. Even experienced forces like Spielberg seem to malls it up often enough. Perhaps the key to Pixar is really working through their ideas and actually throwing out the garbage whether it'd sell or not? Their review process is definitely good. If you look at the making off ToyStory extras and see what the characters were like to begin with, you see Pixar actually refined their ideas until they really worked.
 
lefizz said:
Kameo i honestly think in just about anyones hands would probably turn into a rather generic shreky type affair since the story etc. while sounding fine for a game has got enough in it to generate a feature film.


Lord of the rings had enough story for three movies. Now I don't mean to say that Kameo has Lord of the Rings category story and plot, but still, it is about evil that comes and wants to take over the world and rocs all over the place, so they could definitely ride on the LOTR wave in some way. It depends in what direction they want to take the movie, but sure as so many other games to movies conversions it might suck really hard...
 
Platon said:
Lord of the rings had enough story for three movies.

Lord of the Rings is a 3 novel series, not a game.

I seriously doubt that Kameo's story would take over 100 pages of text, much less almost 1,000.
 
DigitalSoul said:
Well, as long as its not been directed by Uwe Boll or whatever the hell his name is....

Every time I see that name I think "Ewe Balls." (For those that don't know, an Ewe is a female sheep.)
 
Powderkeg said:
Lord of the Rings is a 3 novel series, not a game.

I seriously doubt that Kameo's story would take over 100 pages of text, much less almost 1,000.

Lord of the Rings was actually only one book, it was the publishers idea to split it into to three books. Not that it matters, just a little curious fact, and I get your point and I don't dissagree, but on the other hand how many pages of story does Finding Nemo or The Incredibles have? Most of the animated movies are quite simple story wise...
 
I found LOTR lacking storywise. It's a long episodic journey with lots of walking and periodic encounters with troubles. The actual plot lines aren't anything amazing and it lacked a lot of literary techniques, plus a deus ex machina type ending...the good guys won by a fluke. Plus the hero was the sidekick. Compare that to a Pixar like Monsters Inc or Incredibles, where you've got the plot twist, foreshadowing, nemesis character and climatic confrontation, and dialogue+events that further the main and sub-plots following the story arc, rather than be episodic and unrelated, and you see Pixar has buckets more story to it than LOTR.

But that's understandable. LOTR was never written by a guy wanting to create an amazing story. Tolkien was fascinated by mythology and wanted to create his own, so followed the principles of myth and fable in the creation of his ideas. He wrote the Hobbit for fun, and wrote the LOTR on the back of it's unexpected success (the Hobbit had buckets more story than LOTR). The fact LOTR was voted the best novel of the 20th century shows that story isn't everything. SOTC is a similar success. The story is, as I understand it, very simple - go kill things. It's in the execution and creation of a believable alternate world that it's appeal lies.

I think more often than not game to film conversions flunk because games are more about what you do than the storyline. The storyline is there to push it along, but the fun comes from the gameplay. Lose the gameplay and often the weakness of game stories shows through, including trying to turn the story into a 2 hour movie. Off the top of my head, Mario and Mortal Combat are classic examples where the games had no amazing story but were enjoyed for the gameplay, whereas the transistion to screen took characters desinged for games and tried to create a plit around them to dire consequences. Kameo presumably isn't a well developed character, so transplanting her into a movie and finding a story that's rich and involving could prove very difficult, depending on what the game story is like and how much scope for development the character has.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Kameo presumably isn't a well developed character, so transplanting her into a movie and finding a story that's rich and involving could prove very difficult, depending on what the game story is like and how much scope for development the character has.


Actually that is the biggest problem I can see. The story they could make a little bit like LOTR, a journey with different troubles showing up and a huge, huge battle to end it all.

But the character part is much more difficult though. Had it been Concer I wouldn't see any problems, but Kameo doesn't really strike me as a strong character. And the other critical thing that is missing are sidekicks. You must have sidekicks, that is the only way things can work. Maybe in the movie she will not be transforming into those elemental worriors and instead have them as companions on her journey because many of those I can see as being really coloful characters...
 
In my opinion Ice Age is better than any Pixar movie. Not to say that Pixar movies are bad, but Ice Age for me was just better.
The humour of the film was more to my taste.
Pixar movies seem to me to be made without taking any risks (mostly because of Disney) so I'm eagerly waiting for their first movies done independently.
 
Mortimer said:
In my opinion Ice Age is better than any Pixar movie. Not to say that Pixar movies are bad, but Ice Age for me was just better.
The humour of the film was more to my taste.
Pixar movies seem to me to be made without taking any risks (mostly because of Disney) so I'm eagerly waiting for their first movies done independently.

Ice Age was hilarious at times, and obviously aimed at an older audience, but to me it felt like a "wait wait wait for the hilarious squirrel thing... wait wait wait OH COOL the squirrel thing... wait wait wait..."

I enjoyed it, but Nemo was hil-f'king-larious most of the time with Doreen or whatever her name was, and many other characters... Even Monsters Inc was up there...
 
Whereas I found Finding Nemo a weaker film compared to Monsters Inc and The Incredibles. (though weaker for Pixar has always seen a 'very good' minimum rating).
 
See, guess different people have different tastes. :D
For one, i think the character or Doreen (the blue fish) was probably the best character in any movie i've ever seen, still today.
 
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