Johnny Depp is a moron (if you didn't already know that)

There's nothing worse than seeing your own country (which you're proud of) being run into the ground. That said, I'd take Depp's remarks as patriotic, more than anything.

LOL. The old, "I hate my country, so I'm patriotic" philosophy, eh? Doesn't make much sense to me...

Anyhow, this is more than criticism. When you call the country, "A stupid, aggresive puppy" and, "...a broken toy", there's more than dissatisfaction there. He's not only calling the administration names, but everyone who is satisfied with the administration, IMO. That's around 3/4 of the country last time I checked...

Again, I've got no problem with criticism. I spent 8 years criticising our last President. It's the attitude that he's too good for this place but he doesn't mind making money off of it. Isn't that what a lot of you left-wingers hate about American Corporations "taking advantage" of cheaper labor in other countries? That they're "using" them? I find it hypocritical that the same argument doesn't apply here...
 
covermye said:
There's nothing worse than seeing your own country (which you're proud of) being run into the ground. That said, I'd take Depp's remarks as patriotic, more than anything.

LOL. The old, "I hate my country, so I'm patriotic" philosophy, eh? Doesn't make much sense to me...

I despise the bush administration and practically everything it's done in the past 3 years, and I speak my mind about it. And yes, I'm certainly patriotic. I just don't like our current leaders.

covermye said:
Anyhow, this is more than criticism. When you call the country, "A stupid, aggresive puppy" and, "...a broken toy", there's more than dissatisfaction there. He's not only calling the administration names, but everyone who is satisfied with the administration, IMO. That's around 3/4 of the country last time I checked...

Must not have checked recently. ;)

Polls for bush are 50/50, and when asking if you'd re-elect bush or someone else, it's 48-45, in favor of bush. The numbers have been dropping fast, especially with the economy and the iraq quagmire intertwining.

covermye said:
Again, I've got no problem with criticism. I spent 8 years criticising our last President. It's the attitude that he's too good for this place but he doesn't mind making money off of it. Isn't that what a lot of you left-wingers hate about American Corporations "taking advantage" of cheaper labor in other countries? That they're "using" them? I find it hypocritical that the same argument doesn't apply here...

:LOL:

Depp doesn't force people to go see his movies. He's not paying them slave wages to be entertained by his talent. That's a pretty silly statement to make covermye.
 
jvd said:
Hey he can hate a country all he wants .But then to make money off a country taht is stupid is just bull. Btw I'm of mind that the usa should cut off aid to all other countrys . Whats the point ? we help out people and then they tell us we suck.

First of all, the 2/3 of the US aid goes to Isreal and Egypt. The rest is spread in various places of interest of the US. There's no aid going to west-european countries or canada or other places like that from which most criticism comes from. Criticism from a country recieving aid is far from common.

As for your other point .. I don't see why he can't do business with the US and yet dislike the political climate? Do you like the political climate in China? Well, I don't, but I don't see that as a reason to stop doing business with them. And I seriously doubt Depp views China in more positive way than he views the US.
 
covermye said:
Again, I've got no problem with criticism. I spent 8 years criticising our last President. It's the attitude that he's too good for this place but he doesn't mind making money off of it. Isn't that what a lot of you left-wingers hate about American Corporations "taking advantage" of cheaper labor in other countries? That they're "using" them? I find it hypocritical that the same argument doesn't apply here...

Can you say China (as Humus mentioned)? Saudi Arabia? Singapore?

What is the charge against Depp, that he accepts money from American corporations? Is that any better then money made by authors of “Everything is wrong with Americaâ€￾ books over the last decade?
 
Geeforcer said:
covermye said:
Again, I've got no problem with criticism. I spent 8 years criticising our last President. It's the attitude that he's too good for this place but he doesn't mind making money off of it. Isn't that what a lot of you left-wingers hate about American Corporations "taking advantage" of cheaper labor in other countries? That they're "using" them? I find it hypocritical that the same argument doesn't apply here...

Can you say China (as Humus mentioned)? Saudi Arabia? Singapore?

What is the charge against Depp, that he accepts money from American corporations? Is that any better then money made by authors of “Everything is wrong with Americaâ€￾ books over the last decade?
well i don't do busniess with those countrys nor do i plan on doing it with them. Well i do buy gas so i guess you can say i do busniess with the saudi's .


I despise the bush administration and practically everything it's done in the past 3 years, and I speak my mind about it. And yes, I'm certainly patriotic. I just don't like our current leaders.

Do you dispise the cliton administration for the wreck that is our economy .
 
Depp did more than disparage the Administration. He said he would never even take his kids to the US for more than a few days as if the people are so horrible.

It's one thing to disparage the government, but to stereotype 50 states and 280+ million people? Depp is a moron. I think I will boycott or pirate his future movies. I was gonna see pirates of the carribean, now I think I'll pass and wait for a DVD rip.
 
"My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out," said the star of the off-beat films "Edward Scissorhands" and "Dead Man."

He wants to teach his kids to "...check it out, get this feeling, and then get out." Sounds like he's critical of more than just the Administration. He's an idiot.
 
DemoCoder said:
It's one thing to disparage the government, but to stereotype 50 states and 280+ million people?
That’s why I mentioned the tax issue before. If Mr. Depp is so displeased with the present administration and of the people who support it, he has the option to pay his taxes in France. This would certainly cost him dearly. I wonder if will put his money where his mouth is.
 
nelg said:
DemoCoder said:
It's one thing to disparage the government, but to stereotype 50 states and 280+ million people?
That’s why I mentioned the tax issue before. If Mr. Depp is so displeased with the present administration and of the people who support it, he has the option to pay his taxes in France. This would certainly cost him dearly. I wonder if will put his money where his mouth is.

I'll bet he lives in Monaco. Many european celebrities choose to live there for tax reasons.
 
What do you expect from someone as superficial as a hollywood star. I mean the guy is a good actor, but that's about it. As a human being he is an idiot beside being an alcoholic and a drug addict. One day he'll get bored of Vanessa, like he did with Kate and Wynona? And will say somekind of other stupidity. But who cares, really, I know of frenchmen who hates their own countries too ;)
 
Zurich: Either extreme (liberal or conservative) can drive the country into the ground. We haven't gone there with either wing though, IMO.. and hopefully we won't.

BTW, you don't see the left complaining much when Clinton decides to drop a bomb in the Middle East.. just a thought.
 
Zeross said:
I'd say it's becoming pathetic :rolleyes:
Wow an American (not a French) says he doesn't agree with the government of his country and he prefers living in France and what is the answer ? " we should make france pay us all it owes us" sorry but I'me missing the point here.

Well, you see, the standard retort of "Why don't you just move to France?" just can't be applied here, so they needed to resort to something else.
 
jvd said:
I despise the bush administration and practically everything it's done in the past 3 years, and I speak my mind about it. And yes, I'm certainly patriotic. I just don't like our current leaders.

Do you dispise the cliton administration for the wreck that is our economy .

Not at all. They weren't the ones who enacted over $2 trillion in tax cuts which has helped thrust us deeper into red ink with no ascertainable positive effect, came into office irresponsibly talking about deep recession in order to sell their politically driven tax cut package, wasted world wide good will towards our nation after one of the worst disasters in our history, started a war against another country without bullet proof facts about their weapons capabilities while ignoring a greater bonafide threat, held secret meetings with energy companies who turned out to be crooked to the core (for instance, the fleecing of California during the artificially created energy crisis of 2001) in order to form energy policy, spent much time attempting to open federally protected land in order to drill for oil, etc etc etc...

And now this little ditty.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/961134.asp?0cv=CA01

Just days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the agency responsible for the environmental health of Americans declared the air and water safe in New York. But now, in her first interview since the release of a troubling report, the Environmental Protection Agency’s top watchdog says the agency didn’t have the facts when it said it was safe to move back to the neighborhoods near Ground Zero. And she’s pointing the finger all the way to the White House.

......

While the EPA’s Tinsley accuses the White House of misleading the public, she stops short of accusing anyone of actually lying, or knowingly providing false information. And Tinsley says the EPA handled most things during 9/11 very well.

Considering the "misleading" of the public wrt Iraq's WMD, this frankly doesn't surprise me.

There are many more reasons that I haven't listed as to why I hope November 2004 brings about a change in the white house leadership.
 
Blade said:
BTW, you don't see the left complaining much when Clinton decides to drop a bomb in the Middle East.. just a thought.

That's because our interests overseas had been attacked and we had proof of who did it. If we had rock solid proof of Iraq's intentions, you would not have seen the mass protests against the war that you did.

And frankly every day that passes further validates those who opposed the war until we received more information about it.
 
jvd said:
Btw something that happened 50 years ago is much more important than something that happened 200+ years ago.

It is? I'd really like to know a reason why. Just a single one.
 
Natoma: Good point. Different circumstances, of course.

It pretty much rides in the territory of the smoking gun POV. Some people want to wait until something bad happens before moving, others want to move before something bad happens and totally eliminate that threat. Bush and Clinton took different routes.

Which route is better? Depends on the situation. Personally, I support Bush but anybody can see that.. like you said.. there probably wasn't enough of a threat. And then you can factor in that we did liberate a nation.. a people. One down, #### to go? :)

But then again, it wasn't really executed in the best way possible. Iraq is in a state of chaos. Of course, like Bush said in a recent press release.. rebuilding takes time. Well, too bad that it takes a hell of a lot of money, too.. a big flaw. Obviously lives as well, but they died for the sake of freedom. In 10-20 years, if the US and their allies are successful in settling down Iraq.. perhaps everybody will finally fully reap what we've sown here. Iraq is going to have democracy. Iraqi descendants may someday be as common or more common than Lebanese or Indian peoples in America's streets, and Iraq will be as free as anything. I think that's a good future despite how rocky the road was getting there.

Going a little bit OT here of course, so I'll stop.. :)

About boycotting Johnny Depp: Meh, despite that I disagree with him.. there's no way I'd boycott him. He's a great actor.. speaking of POTC he basically carried that film. I liked him in Edward Scissorhands too.
 
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