Teasy said:
The number of people who love a game and how many great reviews it has does not always translate into sales. Therefore sales don't translate into a game being of high quality as much as reviews and the general consensus of gamers.
Precisely, both are equally as relevant or irrelevant.
Which was kinda the point I was trying to make subtly with the wink-smilie.
Is it also just as obvious that its only your personal opinion on the game when you try to trivialise any opposing opinions on the game?
I don't trivialize any opposing opinions, just the ones that come from people who are obviously playing it for the nostalgia values or because they think it's a Nintendo game, it must be good. Lots of people like SMS for what it is, but from my experience and observations those people are rarer than people like to believe.
It's kind of like how hype can translate into huge scores for a medicore game (*cough*TheGetaway*cough*). The human mind is fascinating.
What I don't like is your opinion that SMS is only liked because of nostalgia.
Not by everyone. But by a great number of people, it's true. Hey, maybe the truth hurts sometimes...
Think about it: replace Mario with Blinx. Do you honestly think SMS would sell anything like it did if it was branded a Blinx game?
Your basically saying that if you didn't like it it can't be good, everyone else must be under some spell because Glonk's opinion superceeds everyone elses.. grow up.
Please, Teasy, stop trying to connect the dots and take things at face value.
I'm saying I didn't like it, and therefore it's not good. Obviously this is an OPINION, no one can honestly say something is "good" or "bad" and that's fact.
I'm not saying no one should like it, or no one else likes it, I'm saying that I don't like it and I don't think it's good.
Simple, ja?
But if we're all going to be honest on what we think of each other I think your an XBox fan-boy who is in major denial
Xbox fanboy..right.
I think SMS is grossly overrated, I think the Xbox is a more powerful console than the Gamecube -- I'm obviously a fanboy.
Come on, Teasy, you know better than that.
Well I must say that's just a perfect view to take on a messageboard
I tell you what, why don't we save allot of time and effort here. You can go and talk to yourself. That way you won't ever have to hear anyone else's opinions.. sound good to you man?
I enjoy hearing other people's opinions because (as someone mentioned above) it can bring things to my attention I may have missed before. But, unfortunately, they don't mean a thing to me.
People can say they hate a game, and I'll still go out and buy it. People can say they love a game, and I'll stay the hell away from it. Their opinions don't phase me, I've never been one to follow trends for the sake of following trends or buying a game because I heard it was good. I enjoy to figure things out for myself rather than rely on other people to do it for me.
For that reason, other people's opinions of games are meaningless to me. I'm here because I generally enjoy the technical discussion and I find it informative, and it's also great fun to prod the fanboys and see them spasm in response sometimes.
Other people's opinions matter to me because without taking other people's opinions into account you only get an extremely limited view, your own. Its an excellent way to be narrow minded and ignorant though so if that's what your going for mission accomplished.
Hmm. Are you confusing yourself here?
If their opinions matter to you, that's saying that their opinions help you form an opinion of something in question.
Are you saying you enjoy reading other people's opinions because you can see things from different points of views, or are you saying they matter to you?
You have to take other people's opinions into account to get the whole picture. For instance I don't like Halo very much at all, I don't think its a great game, same with Pokemon. But then I can see that considering how many rave reviews these games get, especially Halo, and the general opinion of gamers the games must be of high quality. I just didn't like it. That's because I realise the difference between what I like and dislike and what IS good and bad. Unlike you I don't have tunnel thinking because I have more then my own opinion to take into consideration.
Excellent, at least you admitted that you honestly believe there
is a true good and a bad. That must be a nice way to live life, separating things into two neat categories.
Good and bad are relative. A good game to someone is a bad game to someone else. There is no "good" game, there is no "bad" game -- it's all relative to who you're talking to! People have different tastes.
Just because many people like a game doesn't mean it's a good game. Because, after all, the only way to see if it's a good game is to play it and see if you like it. Otherwise it's just a good game to someone else, and not you.
Perhaps my view is more egocentric than most people's, but that's how I like it. It's also the most true to life, it sure as hell beats dumbing things down and sifting out what's a "good" game or "bad" game depending on how many people like it.
