Image Quality and Framebuffer Speculations for WIP/alpha/beta/E3 games *Read the first post*

[SG79]

There's far less tearing and less frame rate drops at 720p with NGS2.

 

[Quaz51]

grandmaster found out that in uncharted, there is no fps difference (less than 0.05% anyway) between 720p native or 1080p (720p upscaled) mode.

I will ask him to test NGS2 to see if there is a difference there between 720p and 1080p, fps wise

but Uncharted have probably a good margin under the 33ms frame time limit most of the time and 30fps locked , hide differences
NG is often at the limit and the frame time is 16ms not 33ms like Uncharted, it's a 60fps upscaling. software upscale have probably more impact

 

[E2K]

but Uncharted have probably a good margin under the 33ms frame time limit most of the time and 30fps locked , hide differences
NG is often at the limit and the frame time is 16ms not 33ms like Uncharted, it's a 60fps upscaling. software upscale have probably more impact

Yes, you are 100% correct.
I also thought, what if uncharted 720p runs at 100 fps, and 1080p upscale at 31.
If they are both locked at 30 fps, you can never see or measure the difference between the two modes.

 

[marcus_rocks]

The test will be virtually meaningless unless there is a way to get exactly the same frames generated. This is why the Uncharted cinema mode is so very, very cool.

Doesn't Gears 2 also provide screenshot capture without altering the original images?

 

[AlNom]

Doesn't Gears 2 also provide screenshot capture without altering the original images?

They heavily compress the output jpegs.

 

[Statix]

NG is often at the limit and the frame time is 16ms not 33ms like Uncharted, it's a 60fps upscaling. software upscale have probably more impact

Are you saying that the target framerate at which a game runs has an impact on how slow the software upscale process is? Or are you just saying that NG2 runs right at the framerate cap (~60 fps) so performance drops are more noticeable?

 

[N_B]

Star Ocean 4 PS3 pics:

http://www.famitsu.com/image/3847/AZJQOOO792NGOEL7eJsJ7F1M1Tl58u8s.html

Any increase in AA/resolution over the 360 version? Or bullshots?

 

[assurdum]

Star Ocean 4 PS3 pics:

http://www.famitsu.com/image/3847/AZJQOOO792NGOEL7eJsJ7F1M1Tl58u8s.html

Any increase in AA/resolution over the 360 version? Or bullshots?

 

[N_B]

Hmmm...on second thought those images probably aren't of any use for looking at native resolutions, being jpegs and not even 720p..nevermind.

 

[COPS N RAPPERS]

new tekken6 shots came up, appears to be of the ps3 build.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748466/imgs_1.html
http://i35.tinypic.com/2u78znk.jpg
http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/7484...screens-20090918093945134.html?page=mediaFull
is it still the same resolution?

this one is saved at an odd res.
http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/7484...screens-20090918093933403.html?page=mediaFull

some of these new shots are blurry some aren't.

it's possible to get check the one that has the button layout?http://i35.tinypic.com/2u78znk.jpg

 

[dawkkz]

Wait NGS2 actually has MSAA ?
I thought it was no AA

Though it is not such high frequency, there seems to be no aa scene.
Probably it is dynamic AA (no aa- 2xmsaa).
isn't it?

http://i33.tinypic.com/w6qazo.jpg
2xmsaa shot
http://i35.tinypic.com/oupbg3.jpg
no aa shot

 

[assurdum]

Though it is not such high frequency, there seems to be no aa scene.
Probably it is dynamic AA (no aa- 2xmsaa).
isn't it?

http://i33.tinypic.com/w6qazo.jpg
2xmsaa shot
http://i35.tinypic.com/oupbg3.jpg
no aa shot

Yeah the strange thing to 720p I have notice more dynamic change to 2xmsaa & no aa than 1080p output

 

[bagofsuck]

Is the new GT5 ferrari tribute in game? or is a bumped up pre rendered video using the game assets?

some screen caps..

http://i37.tinypic.com/xo2iki.png

http://i35.tinypic.com/1z5kker.png

http://i35.tinypic.com/308jvxy.png

 

[AlNom]

In-engine, not in-game.

 

[bagofsuck]

In-engine, not in-game.

But is pre-rendered right?

 

[warb]

But is pre-rendered right?

Yes.

 

[Mr Deap]

Star Ocean 4 PS3 pics:

http://www.famitsu.com/image/3847/AZJQOOO792NGOEL7eJsJ7F1M1Tl58u8s.html

Any increase in AA/resolution over the 360 version? Or bullshots?

I wouldn't be surprised if the PS3 version look very different from the 360 version. The way it was build fit exactly the strenght of the 360.

 

[user542745831]

Anyone here who figured out the native rendering resolution / AA of those:

Forza Motorsport 3 demo up
Update: Images added

http://gamersyde.com/news_forza_motorsport_3_demo_up-8566_en.html

?

 

[nightshade]

My bet is 720p 2*MSAA.
Too jagged to be 4*MSAA.

 

[AlNom]

Nothing has changed.