Would it make u happy if I say dial up instead of 56k paul ? would that term help. Or mabye should i define the upload and download of cable I'm talking about . My vision and the vision of others for the net will require Connections that even the fastest cable can give . By a very large margin. And no I don't have a masters in networking. I'm starting grauduate school. Thisi s my first semestar.Paul said:
How would you react when the PSX3 spec reads 240~480 GFLOPS?
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Quote the entire persons post and then give a one-liner that misses the point?
You mean't this.
Concidering that a Cable modem doesn't have a fixed speed(this depends on the ISP) this makes utterly no sense at all.
It SCALES UP.
Cable ISP's will give more bandwidth to the end user once file sizes increase.
Will new forms of Internet come along that will totally rape Cable in speed, latency, reliability?
Yes, this I have NEVER doubted. Some of us ALREADY have it, it's called Fiber. Fiber optics is the best known medium of transfering data anyone knows of on earth.
But saying that Cable will become 56k is just wrong, this was my whole point. It can't become 56k when there is no set speed for a Cable modem, it's not like you buy a 1024K modem.
"Cable modem" is quite simply a way of using Cable to access the internet, the modem let's you do this. It's not a set thing.
As bandwidth needs get higher, cable isp's will release more bandwidth, as the "limit" on Cable modem technology comes closer(10 years to reach 38MB/s from 2000kbs?) there will be new technology based on Cable wires to access the internet not unlike Dial-up modems to DSL.
Yet you miss the point. There will be a time where the tech behind cable modems will have hit a brick wall. At that point the new techs will surpass it and offer us an experiance that is like cable compared to 56k. That is what i meant. If you feel the need to argue this for a few more posts have fun with out me. Because I don't have time to waste listening to u go on and on.Paul said:
I did post it . Go and read my posts. IT will go from being text based like the old computer games to being what the video games are now. If u want to learn about niagra falls. Instead of pictures you will go and see a fully rendered version of the falls as close to perfect as possible with the sights and sounds as if u were there. And instead of just reading a web page about the falls you will have a tour guide or signs by the falls talking about them like in real life. I don't expect this to happen for at least another 20-30 years but thats exactly why i said my grandkids. Or mabye I said my kids. Either or. That is what I see becoming of the web.Paul said:
It's already here.
Fiber optics.
Around 150 terabit max capacity. It will just depend on the flavor in how you get it, a neighborhood deal like DSDN, Fiber to the home, FTTC.
Verizon will begin deploying fiber in a few years. Just hold on.
We have this, it's a video. Why render the falls in 3d when you can have a real streaming video of it?
Panajev2001a
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A PlayStation 9/Xbox 8 can ender Quake I at 2,000 fps ( justg a random number ).
GCN8 renders it at 1,800-2,010 fps: the fact GCN 8 might be slower or faster is irrelevant as users will not really see the difference either way.
The slowdown in current system happens especially when you have lots of processes running at once ( even lots of simple processing will slow your system down ): multi-tasking is one of the areas where CELL could shine.
That the vast majority of software does not need a Pentium 4 EE 3.2 GHz either ( we already talked about the multi-tasking/multi-threading issue ) and the software that would use the CELL's FP power is the software that is driving the current increase in performance: 3D gaming and multimedia applications.
Chris123234
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Paul said:
Why have a non interactive video of it when you can have a fully 3d environment of it?? Are you really this insistant that things will never change??
And if fiber has tb/s bandwidth isnt that like a cable modem (AS IN THE MAXIMUM SPEED THEY WILL EVER FREAKING HAVE WITH CABLE MODEMS AND CABLE MODEM MEDIUMS) caompared to the 56k(AS IN THE DIAL IP SERVICE THAT RUNS AT 56K AND NOT THE PHONE LINE MEDIUM AND OTHER SERVICES THAT RUN ON IT)???
Is that question too ambiguous like all the other questions and scenarios mention?? Or can you actually answer it without saying "well the cable modem is just a term and it can scale up".
There are no aliances with jvd. In fact I had a go with him before a couple of times i think.
We both are just able to open our minds and see whats being said. Unlike you who is being very hard headed.
3D enviornment on a monitor? or a VR type thing. I'm talking about a monitor, if your talking VR this changes everything.
At first you guys were just talking about a rendered internet, which is a shockwave type thing. Now your talking about rendering niagra falls? This changes EVERYTHING, and in rendering niagra falls of course you will need more bandwidth.
How old are you, Stop going nuts.
Fiber is the best known way of transfering data known to man, no electricity passes through the fibers meaning no risk of a fire, the signal degrades less compared to copper, and the bandwidth is practically unlimited.
Fiber optics is the MEDIUM of the future, that a select few have and in a few years more and more will have their internet connection BASED on this medium.
So let's look at the ways fiber can be deployed?
The best way is Fiber to the home(FTTH), this is the fiber going straight into the home most likely straight Ethernet. Plug the CAT5/6 into your comp or router and away you go.
Then there is Fiber to the neighborhood, this is a DSDN type thing, something Switchpoint networks made. Too bad I think they are now dead.
Also is fiber to the pole and a few others.
The sheer greatness of Fiber is incredible. It will be used for Data, voice and telephone communications.
I see what's being said. And it's wrong.
Cable modems will never become 56k for all shockwave 3d type interactive websites and for what we have now. Which is WHAT I was talking about until you guys brought up rendering niagra falls on the internet.
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Paul to be fair once i explained what i meant by text base I gave a small discription of text based video games to the computer games we have now. Which i think can easly happen in the next 10 years. But my vision of the net and what its allways been is a full world in which we can go anywhere on our pc. Do you really think your grandkids will want to surf the web when thier video games are ice age type graphics or more ? Hell I know I wont even want to do that even if i'm in my 80s when it happens .
Just saw it now, it was on the bottom of the 12th page.. I never even looked down there.
However my point still stands, for full 3d shockwave websites Cable will never be 56k. But for what YOU want, it will have no choice but have to be.
As far as your vision.
Your vision goes beyond monitors, beyond a keyboard and a mouse. It's something totally new.. and once you go there I'm not even sure you can call it the internet. More like a encyclopedia but one in which you are IN the area your researching. VR.