Diplo said:I note with wry amusement that even MSN are recommending Firefox over IE - lol
Once firefox/opera (for that matter linux) become more popular you will see a shift of hackers move from IE to the other software/OS.
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How many use Mozilla Firefox and whats your evaluation???
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epicstruggle said:Diplo said:I note with wry amusement that even MSN are recommending Firefox over IE - lolOnce firefox/opera (for that matter linux) become more popular you will see a shift of hackers move from IE to the other software/OS.
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But they won't have the gaping security loophole of ActiveX that IE has. The most serious web page based hacks (including this recent one that prompted the CERT advisory) heavily relies on ActiveX to do it's dirty deeds.
Re: How many use Mozilla Firefox and whats your evaluation??
Tabbed browsing was ripped off from Opera, just like ever other half-decent feature Firefox has.
When I last checked out Firefox a few months ago, there was no way to move the tab bar from the top to the bottom which pissed me off. Opera's UI seems a whole hell of a lot more customizable - or at least cutomizable by by people like me who don't have the patience or competence to edit heaps of config files.
Seriously, who needs Firefox when you can have Opera? Or even IE-front-ends like "Avant Browser" that provide much of the same functionality for IE? Also, Firefox just feels unacceptably slow compared to IE and Opera.
Firefox has still a lot of growing up to do before it becomes viable to me.
Thunderbird in the other hand is pretty nifty if all you want is a simple, no frills mail client. I've been using it for ages.
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Tabbed browsing was ripped off from Opera, just like ever other half-decent feature Firefox has.
When I last checked out Firefox a few months ago, there was no way to move the tab bar from the top to the bottom which pissed me off. Opera's UI seems a whole hell of a lot more customizable - or at least cutomizable by by people like me who don't have the patience or competence to edit heaps of config files.
Seriously, who needs Firefox when you can have Opera? Or even IE-front-ends like "Avant Browser" that provide much of the same functionality for IE? Also, Firefox just feels unacceptably slow compared to IE and Opera.
Firefox has still a lot of growing up to do before it becomes viable to me.
Thunderbird in the other hand is pretty nifty if all you want is a simple, no frills mail client. I've been using it for ages.
I have to agree, with firefox and mozilla customization is a big issue. One should be able to customize things with greater ease.
I don't wish to pay for a browser nor am I interested in an banner so Firefox still wins. As for Avant, it's UI blows goats, the same with every other IE front-end.
I don't wish to pay for a browser nor am I interested in an banner so Firefox still wins. As for Avant, it's UI blows goats, the same with every other IE front-end.
epicstruggle said:Diplo said:I note with wry amusement that even MSN are recommending Firefox over IE - lolOnce firefox/opera (for that matter linux) become more popular you will see a shift of hackers move from IE to the other software/OS.
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This is precisely true though.
Everybody raves about how secure linux and so forth are, but the truth is that if hackers were focusing on it as much it too would have many viruses and so forth. at least imho
How do we know this for sure. If hackers around the world decided to hack/crack linux/firefox they would find ways that you and I would never imagine. Its a fact that hacking windows boxes has a bigger payoff since the larger install base.Diplo said:
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No, it's different, and that's why I always have trouble copying or deleting parts of the url in FireFox.
To select part of the url in IE you do, click (selects all), click-n-drag to select a part of it.
In FireFox you have to click (selects all), click (selects nothing), click-n-drag to select a part of it.
I've been using Mozilla (not FireFox) for quite sometime and have no crashing issues. Maybe I'll try FireFox when it hits version 1.0, but for now I don't see a compelling reason to switch.
"open in the background" is my favorite feature as well. Find as you type is great as well.Simon F said:
A friend of mine just made the same comment about moving the tab bar this weekend so I guess he's not the only one that would like this feature. We need Mozilla/FireFox because to many it is a better option than the others. When I tried Opera it ran very slow on my computer and I didn't like the interface. Mozilla however is very quick for me and I like the "Modern" theme.L233 said:
Mozilla 1.4 works exactly like you desire. Clicking and releaseing selects all, but clicking and dragging selects a part of the url. A third click is not necessary.Humus said:
And so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced. But all was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird. The bird gazed down upon the unbelievers and cast fire and thunder upon them. For the beast had been reborn with its strength renewed, and the followers of Mammon cowered in horror.
from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15
from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15
It's very tempting but the fact they say it could "crush[sic]" your browser inclines me to wait a bitnutball said:Ace's Hardware said:
Just found this over at Ace's. Haven't tried it, YMMV, etc.
From a cursory glance it looks like it'll allow you to move the tab bar to the side/bottom, and re-order the tabs. Don't blame me if it's crap!
Well, I work as a web developer, so I have a pretty good understanding of the issues involved. The vast majority of IE exploits would NEVER work on any other browser - ActiveX is perhaps the biggest security hole there is and there is NO equivalent in Opera or Mozilla (though I believe Moz is looking at it). Also, the fact that IE is so tightly integrated into the OS is a major inherent weakness. Then the fact IE supports VBscript and Jscript (Microsoft's extended version of Javascript), which are powerful client-side languages, gives exploits easy access to a simple but very powerful scripting language. These are facts, not supposition.epicstruggle said:
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Day three of testing. Browsing stability is still pretty good, but I'm still seeing the Menu Bar freezing when I go from regular to full screen window and back. On a side note, I haven't missed IE very much, though some programs keep ask for it in order to download updates... Active X strikes again.
Concerning the Menu Bar... I agree with folks here about needing the ability to move and re-size the bar. May I add that it would also be great if we could introduce an auto hide feature to the menu bar that would only show the tabs on a full time basis, and only pull down the rest of the toolbar when you move your mouse to the edge of the screen that the bar resides.
Concerning the Menu Bar... I agree with folks here about needing the ability to move and re-size the bar. May I add that it would also be great if we could introduce an auto hide feature to the menu bar that would only show the tabs on a full time basis, and only pull down the rest of the toolbar when you move your mouse to the edge of the screen that the bar resides.
well I am still using .8 and it's good, actually .7 seemed to be evena little bit better... but well .9 I am not even going there waiting for 1.0+...
waiting for 1.0+...I've been using 9.0 and I find that it is the same speed as internet explorer on my connection. Some pages load faster in Internet explorer while others are faster in firefox. I use firefox for my browsing as I like it's interface better than ie's. While ie feels faster, I have found that in reality it is not as ie tends to load more of the page before it is visible while firefox loads very little of the page before it is visible.
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