Anything expensive and hyped...
Heavenly Sword (wow)
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DuckThor Evil
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Nah Alan Wake is a sure thing! :smile: Max Payne games proved that Remedy is right on the money.
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When the smurfin' heck are you guys going to start showing this game, nAo and DeanoC?
As early as.... tomorrow
Maybe?inefficient
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PlayStation-branded entertainment and gaming content that will be shown in the Sony booth at CES 2007, includes:
* Heavenly Sword -- PS3
I hope this is the new non-arena demo that they worked on but we did not get to see last time. But I don't know if they would bother with such a thing for CES.
* Heavenly Sword -- PS3
I hope this is the new non-arena demo that they worked on but we did not get to see last time. But I don't know if they would bother with such a thing for CES.
Well what if it were also going to turn up on the PS Store in the very near future? Especially since it was supposedly very much done back near the TGS.
Naboomagnoli
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As early as.... tomorrow
DeanoC hasn't posted for a couple of days. Maybe he hasn't got wireless in the hotel he's staying at in Vegas (or at least I hope that's where he is..)
DeanoC hasn't posted for a couple of days. Maybe he hasn't got wireless in the hotel he's staying at in Vegas (or at least I hope that's where he is..)
Rainy Haverhill (where i live up the road from Cambridge) eating Rainbow Drops. http://www.aquarterof.co.uk/rainbow-drops-p-171.html
Not quite Vegas...
Honestly haven't got a clue, CES hasn't been something NT have done anything big for...
BUT then we are been busy in real game stuff
AND Sony already have 'stuff' both seen and unseen...
So err I'm very curious myself as to what they decide to show etc.
Ah, gotta love PR.
Thanks for the info.
I'm probably reaching here, but will marketing allow you to say anything about the March 6th date on the playstation website?
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3
Not to mentally barf on this thread, but this brings up a good question: What is AAA?
I am cautious about calling new franchises and titles from smaller devs "AAA" before the game is an absolutely known quantity. I have no doubt that Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword will be very good titles, but there is a gap between AAA and very good. A lot of new IPs fall short to some degree. Likewise expecting a AAA title from a studio that has never made one is also asking a lot.
Not impossible, or even unlikely, only that counting it as AAA is difficult for me. Now counting them as major releases to drive sales--that is another story! I expect both Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword, regardless quality, to be significant enough titles to garner consumer interest and are worth marking on the release calendar and of special note for strategic purposes (calendar filling, genre filling, etc). And a game need not even be AAA to be a big commercial success (for example Dead Rising).
And yes, I have showed the same reservations toward new Xbox 360 IPs like Blue Dragon, Lost Planet, Lost Odessey, Viva Pinata, Too Human, Alan Wake, Crackdown, Forza Motorsport 2, and even Gears of War. Gears was absolutely destined for huge sales based on hype and graphics, but imo Epic has a spotty record with SP and had never ascended to the tier of AAA developer in regards to game quality. On the other hand I would say I expect Mass Effect and Halo 3 to both be AAA games by concession due to their dev quality, franchise quality, experience in the genre, funding and production quality, and marketing support.
Of course I am guilty, more so than everyone else, of looking at the calendar with a dotted schedule "balance" with "Sony will have X, Y, and Z in 2007... MS will have A, B, and C in 2007... and Nintendo will have 1, 2, and 3 in 2007" and trying to figure out how they will impact the market as strategic titles to fill the calendar, genres, and compliment the rest of the companies product placement and general strategy. But I don't think a title needs to be a AAA title to be of significance to consumers. One of my favorite GCN games (Mario Kart Double Dash!!) is not generally viewed as a AAA title. Yet it had good quality, sold well enough, and was a strategically important title in regards to release date and filling certain demographic software demands. And it alone is the reason my GCN is hooked up right now, even though I don't view it as a AAA title.
Of course what is AAA is a totally different question. Does it need to make significant impact in defining a genre? Sales? Platform? A balance of each? If it has high reviews but low sales is it AAA? How about it sells well but reviews poorly? Does it need to move units; does it need to impact the balance of helping define a platform as the platform as "the platform for genre_x games"? Or do market hype and positioning by the powers that be make a title AAA?
I would look at it as a balance of many factors, where any factor has a "critical mass" point which, when exceeded, makes all the other points irrelevant. e.g. If a title ships 10M units but reviews poorly (sub 7.5 average) and has low production values it is still a AAA app because like it or not people want it. If a title is genre defining and is that genres killer app, even if a niche genre, it can constitute a AAA title by the implications it has on attracting customers. A title that has an average of 9.0 or better by average reviews is flirting with AAA status just be general concensus of quality. A title that moves a lot of consoles, regardless of anything else, could be AAA--as much as the title itself may have zero AAA qualities. And so forth... but I think ultimately, for me, it comes down to a balance of product quality relative to the platform, sales, relationship to other titles in the genre, and market position. e.g. I wonder if Splinter Cell Double Agent and Rainbow Six: Vegas would be flirting with AAA status if they arrived in the spring or summer. Some would even argue now that they are both AAA titles based on quality and how they fit into their respective genres.
This is all my opinion of course and how I look at "AAA". Your definition may be different and I can readily see how "High Selling Title with High Production Quality" as a definition of AAA.
Anyhow, back to Bobbler's point, yes, good times for gamers as there will be 4 titles in different genres very much worth shelling some money out for, regardless of any arbitrary label and arguement about what is AAA and what isn't
Anything critically acclaimed by the game review industry can be considered AAA. Sales and hype has nothing to do with such a designation or "The Matrix" game would be considered an AAA game (far from it). GOW's or any top game's, from any platform, sp experience is not affected by PR hype or number of units it moves.
Naboomagnoli
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Dunno about that, since I consider ICO to be arguably the greatest game on the PS2 but I don't see it as a AAA title because it didn't have blockbusting sales. I always thought AAA titles were ones that sold massively well AND were critically acclaimed.
I hate it when that happens because ICO literally rapes best selling EA games as a creation despite that it didnt sell much. Sales dont always make for an AAA game for me and this is something I ll never accept.
Okami is another title that deserves the AAA description but probably didnt do as well as Fable which is overrated compared to it.
But anyways, since there is this disagreement, I think Heavenly Sword can be best described as a ptentially AAA title
As far as I've known it, "AAA" has never had anything to do with sales, and has had everything to do with projected sales, and the resulting investment. "AAA" titles, as I've ever heard the term used (except on forums lol), have always had a large & expensive design team, plenty of hype, and the expectation of blockbuster sales. as in, "Far Cry was not a AAA title, but it really pushed graphics cards and had a popular gameplay at the right time in cards sales, so Crysis is now counted on as a AAA title for the PC space."
Back on topic: nice to hear that Deano, I'm sure everyone realizes by now that how the game's marketed is not in your control. Don't let these whiners get to you
Back on topic: nice to hear that Deano, I'm sure everyone realizes by now that how the game's marketed is not in your control. Don't let these whiners get to you
Naboomagnoli
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Well I'll say something I've said before (here or elsewhere, not sure now!): if the game is good, then it'll sell as well as can be expected. With the relative dearth of games at the start of a console lifecycle, plus with however many PS3 early adopters there will be in March all anticipating the release of any great PS3 games, I envisage that with good reviews and a playable demo this game will get the sales it looks like it'll deserve.
sorry to get off topic........ but man I can't wait for tomorrow.......can we presume 1080p/60fps HD Camera support......
anyway...... I also can't wait to see some more HS gameplay....its been too long... (I'm sure for a reason)
I also hope that they have new playable/gameplay footage of Lair...... these next few months are going to be crazy..... (and of course God of War 2)
I wish they were showing more. I hope they have a few surprises under their sleeve
sorry to get off topic........ but man I can't wait for tomorrow.......can we presume 1080p/60fps HD Camera support......
anyway...... I also can't wait to see some more HS gameplay....its been too long... (I'm sure for a reason)
I also hope that they have new playable/gameplay footage of Lair...... these next few months are going to be crazy..... (and of course God of War 2)
