Half-Life vs. Halo
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HL by far.
Halo's repetitive levels have become something of a cliche, but things don't become cliche without being true. And as if the repetition wasn't bad enough, the game actually has you retracing your path through levels you've already truged through.
Halo's level design is the worst since Legend of Kage (NES). Ok, that's an exaggeration, but I honestly haven't seen worse for a long, long time.
If every level were on par with the very first level when you escape the Autumn this could have been the greatest FPS ever.
If this and nothing else is cleaned up in Halo 2, it could be worthy of the praise that the original received.
My next complaints are personal preference. First, aliens have ruined every "story-based" FPS I've ever played. PD, even the end of Half-Life was destroyed when you went to the alien planet. The only time they haven't ruined the experience for me are in games like DOOM and Serious Sam. Again, just a preference.
I also didn't like the vehicles. *gasps* The only vehicle that I enjoyed was that giant, nearly indestructable Tank that you could drive for about 100 yards. The flying vehicles were too difficult to control and aim with and the Warthog's physics were a big turn off.
Halo's repetitive levels have become something of a cliche, but things don't become cliche without being true. And as if the repetition wasn't bad enough, the game actually has you retracing your path through levels you've already truged through.
Halo's level design is the worst since Legend of Kage (NES). Ok, that's an exaggeration, but I honestly haven't seen worse for a long, long time.
If every level were on par with the very first level when you escape the Autumn this could have been the greatest FPS ever.
If this and nothing else is cleaned up in Halo 2, it could be worthy of the praise that the original received.
My next complaints are personal preference. First, aliens have ruined every "story-based" FPS I've ever played. PD, even the end of Half-Life was destroyed when you went to the alien planet. The only time they haven't ruined the experience for me are in games like DOOM and Serious Sam. Again, just a preference.
I also didn't like the vehicles. *gasps* The only vehicle that I enjoyed was that giant, nearly indestructable Tank that you could drive for about 100 yards. The flying vehicles were too difficult to control and aim with and the Warthog's physics were a big turn off.
BenSkywalker
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Half-Life.
I would say that Halo has come the closest to reproducing the total experience, and Half-Life can certainly be improved upon(the entire end segment on the alien planet was week). One of the major problems with Halo is that it utilizes team based combat while making your team mates utter wusses on the reasonable difficulty levels. Playing through on Legendary you regularly get the feeling of failure as your troops are wiped before you can reach them frequently. In Half-Life, the entire game is geared around it being just you. The more confined areas are better suited to single player combat where Halo's open areas aren't. Halo ends up being either too easy, or doesn't play nearly as well as Half-Life. Half-Life has better continuity in terms of balance and design. I think it is a matter of degrees, as Halo is still well entrenched in the incredible game territory, but not quite up to Half-Life.
I would say that Halo has come the closest to reproducing the total experience, and Half-Life can certainly be improved upon(the entire end segment on the alien planet was week). One of the major problems with Halo is that it utilizes team based combat while making your team mates utter wusses on the reasonable difficulty levels. Playing through on Legendary you regularly get the feeling of failure as your troops are wiped before you can reach them frequently. In Half-Life, the entire game is geared around it being just you. The more confined areas are better suited to single player combat where Halo's open areas aren't. Halo ends up being either too easy, or doesn't play nearly as well as Half-Life. Half-Life has better continuity in terms of balance and design. I think it is a matter of degrees, as Halo is still well entrenched in the incredible game territory, but not quite up to Half-Life.
CaptainHowdy
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I never made it to the end of halflife, which is why I like it better, the mods took me over, and have ever since, its the only game to be the most played for 4 years straight, and in that 4 years, not a week has gone by without me playing at least one of its mods.. in 4 years, noone will remember Halo.
KnightBreed
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Interesting. Halo is winning the poll, but none the Halo-voters are in here to defend it. 
Edit: By the way, CaptainHowdy, the game will hit the 4 year old mark in October. Not really any point to my comment. Just FYI.
Edit: By the way, CaptainHowdy, the game will hit the 4 year old mark in October. Not really any point to my comment. Just FYI.
Johnny Rotten
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Yeesh. Tough call. I think I'd give the edge to Half-life. It felt like a 'grander' experience. Halo's combat is way more exciting though and the character personalities (marines, grunts, hunters, covenant) in Halo rock. And Halo's soundtrack is superior too.
Actually I take it back, I cant decide....
Actually I take it back, I cant decide....
The end of Half-life sucked. I didn't really care for the game, aside from the beginning sequence and the first few battles with marines. It was pretty boring, with some of the puzzles and everything.
Halo was a better game, but had repetitive levels. Overall, still a much better experience.
Halo was a better game, but had repetitive levels. Overall, still a much better experience.
CaptainHowdy
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you must have played it on PS2 to say that..
Halflife is STILL the best, but, I am not going to pretend to have made it to the end, I got sucked into multiplayer..
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Team fortress Classic
Deathmatch Classic
Counter Strike
Firearms
Day of Defeat
Action Halflife
Frontline Force
They Hunger
Vampire Hunter
Ricochet
etc etc..the game goes on forever, and the fun NEVER ends...Halo cant make such promises.
Halflife is STILL the best, but, I am not going to pretend to have made it to the end, I got sucked into multiplayer..
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Team fortress Classic
Deathmatch Classic
Counter Strike
Firearms
Day of Defeat
Action Halflife
Frontline Force
They Hunger
Vampire Hunter
Ricochet
etc etc..the game goes on forever, and the fun NEVER ends...Halo cant make such promises.
V3, I have the same problem.
Half-life made me absolutely sick, I had to lay down to calm my nausea.
Same with Halo on my VGA monitor.
I have to play games that run at either 60 fps or 30 fps but it has to be steady. Goldeneye 007 gave me the same problem. Quake3 for Dreamcast, same problem. Perfect Dark was the worst though
Half-life made me absolutely sick, I had to lay down to calm my nausea.
Same with Halo on my VGA monitor.
I have to play games that run at either 60 fps or 30 fps but it has to be steady. Goldeneye 007 gave me the same problem. Quake3 for Dreamcast, same problem. Perfect Dark was the worst though
DeathKnight
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I feel sorry for you guys that get that kind of motion sickness 
I decided to play through HL single player again since I haven't for quite some time and I realized how utterly boring it is. Halo's entire presentation and polish is quite unmatched IMHO. Both games have some of the same elements, but I feel Halo just does a better job with them.
I decided to play through HL single player again since I haven't for quite some time and I realized how utterly boring it is. Halo's entire presentation and polish is quite unmatched IMHO. Both games have some of the same elements, but I feel Halo just does a better job with them.
It's hardly fair to compare two games that are more than 3 years apart on graphical finesse and polish.
Halflife revolutionized the (single player) FPS genre. Halo merely brushed up on it.
Saying that HL sucks because it gives you motion sickness is like a midget saying a Ferrari F40 sucks because he can't reach the accelerator.
Cheers
Gubbi
Halflife revolutionized the (single player) FPS genre. Halo merely brushed up on it.
Saying that HL sucks because it gives you motion sickness is like a midget saying a Ferrari F40 sucks because he can't reach the accelerator.
Cheers
Gubbi
BenSkywalker
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You may even find two or three other gamers, somewhere on the planet, who agree with that. Carmack has commented on how much Half-Life revolutionized the genre(and gaming at large in some ways). Did you play HL when it came out? There was nothing else close to like it at the time.
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