General Next Generation Rumors and Discussions [Post GDC 2020]
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Great video. I was too young to be able to properly analyse that generation of consoles and I must say that it’s super interesting how radically different these two platforms were.
He got a subscription from me!
Metal_Spirit
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Woa... so this guy is telling that a faster car could not translate into faster trips if we make big detours. Amazing
So essentially what's he telling me is if l a drive Ferrari in heavy traffic it won't be faster than a Scoda. OK.
TeamGhobad
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there is always going to be traffick.
Looking at the entire datapath, it looks like SONY paved a custom closed circuit to go with their fast cars. They also have 6 priority lanes so the fastest super cars are unencumbered by the slower ones.
(I have to write SONY in uppercase because that's what my contract stipulates)
That makes no sense. You can’t load more than 16 GB into RAM no matter how badly it’s optimized.
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Spider-Man was awesome on the PS2. For PS2 era games.
Let's just agree to disagree, I'm seeing lots of devs super saying they are super stoked for SSDs in nextgen consoles. I've seen nobody talk about graphics other than the expected interest in the new RT hardware.
Metal_Spirit
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Off course you can... that’s why bandwidth increased. You cannot have l more that 16 AT A UNIQUE TIME FRAME, but having larger bandwidth you can replace it more often each second, requiring a faster loading system to keep up.
He is commentating about the guy saying loads will take longer and in that case his right, you can't load more than 16GB if that's the total RAM.
Thats still 16GB
But yes thats a great thing. Swapping data fast will definitely give more variety than just 16GB of "static" data. Still, we cant expect 16GB of unique data every second. And it doesnt have to be.What is nice about this is that it brings back memories of the PS2 VRAM and its high bandwidth. Everyone was lamenting how small that VRAM was (4MB?) and thus low texture quality was expected. But the bandwidth was quite high and could fetch and swap off screen textures with on screen textures (which I think were residing in the main memory?) which meant it didnt have to load all textures in the VRAM. We got higher quality when optimized than if we had traditional use of 4MB of VRAM.
This is like the next gen evolution (or revolution) of that old idea
Metal_Spirit
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I see.. loading times...Sorry, I was out of context!
Textures where never one of the ps2s strong points, they had to trick and work around things to get closer to what xbox/gcn did. The lack of any texture compression didnt help it either.
You can always recognize a ps2 game by looking at its textures.
The ps2 needed its high bw, multipass for just anout anything. Ps2 had the weakest and most quircky hw of 6th gen, but was a huge success by a large ratio diff compared to the competition. Something like that wouldnt work today
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Ps2 had the weakest and most quircky hw of 6th gen, but was a huge success by a large ratio diff compared to the competition. Something like that wouldnt work today
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulta...tsold-the-xbox-one-with-a-35-year-late-start/
I never said the PS2 had superb textures. The point is that the idea is there and the texture swapping helped it.Textures where never one of the ps2s strong points, they had to trick and work around things to get closer to what xbox/gcn did. The lack of any texture compression didnt help it either.
You can always recognize a ps2 game by looking at its textures.
The ps2 needed its high bw, multipass for just anout anything. Ps2 had the weakest and most quircky hw of 6th gen, but was a huge success by a large ratio diff compared to the competition. Something like that wouldnt work today
The PS2 benefited by releasing earlier, and letting the hype and brand awareness do its magic. After that it had all the support with a lot of third party exclusives of the best franchises to make the other two options irrelevant.
All the franchises that made the PS1 a success where carried over to the PS2 with almost exclusive support.
I think that this time we will have a very soft launch due to coronavirus stopping development.
Probably some upgraded current gen with pc texture pack, some work from home indie game, and then the real stuff at the end of the 2021H1.
At this state probably what's not ready for show now, will not be ready for E3 timeframe.
Probably some upgraded current gen with pc texture pack, some work from home indie game, and then the real stuff at the end of the 2021H1.
At this state probably what's not ready for show now, will not be ready for E3 timeframe.
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