G-Phoria

jvd

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On g4 they are doing the reward show. They have been showing xbox 360 games . First need for speed which i belive was mostly cgi and then what we've seen from e3 . But then they showed full auto. Let me just say it looked great. They showed a car go through a glass area of the building . I believe it was the lobby and then they rewound it in that reverse death deal. The detail was amazing for the amount of glass and building parts that were flying around .
 
Not sure how good the single player of Condemed will be, but it seems like for pure online deathmatch the game could rock hard. The dark enviroments with the dynamic lighting in a dilapidated urban enviroment fits well.
 
they also showed shadow of something . Which looked really good for the ps2. I might have to borrow my sisters ps2 to play it
 
I thought G phoria was pretty wack and campy but heh... that videogamers for you...:p

I dont like Full Auto at all.. There is nothing next gen about it ... its hi res for sure, but next gen? Not even close.. Sega has been fairly disappointing in recent years.... You gotta wonder where the big guns for x360 are?
 
I don't think I understand what "next-gen" is supposed to look like. All I know is "current-gen" has about reached its usefulness for me. I was never able to get passed the aliasing, shimmering, and palletized textures of the PS2. XBox did okay for me for a while, but after getting used to hi-end PC games like FarCry, HL2, Doom3, FEAR, etc. , it's looking extremely dated. Even top-tier titles like Halo2 and Forza have bad LOD popping, short draw distances, no effective anti-aliasing, and low frame-rates. Sure, XBox devs are doing some normal mapping, nice bloom effects, etc. to take some decent screenshots. And don't get me wrong, certain titles still look great based on their art style and design. But because the vast majority still have such low-res textures and 3d models, when combined with the low resolution screen modes, the visuals are just not cutting it.

I much prefer gaming on my sofa in front of my 50" Samsung DLP with 800Watts of 5.1 Dolby Digital surround sound, than at my computer desk. Give me 720P+AA+HDR, better draw distances, models, and textures, and I'll be good to go. I think Full-Auto looks awesome. I want fun games, and it seems to be that. Art direction and design are more important to what looks next-gen than any technical hardware or software implementations. I can appreciate that other people want/expect more than I do. But to me, it is what it is. This is where the technology is at today, there is where the tools are at today. We know there will always be something better tommorrow, but I have grown tired of where the technology was yesterday.
 
blakjedi said:
I thought G phoria was pretty wack and campy but heh... that videogamers for you...:p

I dont like Full Auto at all.. There is nothing next gen about it ... its hi res for sure, but next gen? Not even close.. Sega has been fairly disappointing in recent years.... You gotta wonder where the big guns for x360 are?


I dunno a game that looks better than any xbox or ps2 game and where all buildings are destuctable . You can destroy any building and have thousands of pieces of broken buildings flying around to me is next gen . Its clearly not possible on this lvl on these systems

I already have this game paid off , all my friends that played it at e3 claimed it was a blast . So i'm very happy .


As for x360s big guns

Ridge racer , pdz , pgr 3 are all launch day games so i don't see them having a lack of big games
 
jvd said:
I dunno a game that looks better than any xbox or ps2 game and where all buildings are destuctable . You can destroy any building and have thousands of pieces of broken buildings flying around to me is next gen . Its clearly not possible on this lvl on these systems

I already have this game paid off , all my friends that played it at e3 claimed it was a blast . So i'm very happy .


As for x360s big guns

Ridge racer , pdz , pgr 3 are all launch day games so i don't see them having a lack of big games

OK... *shrug* I didnt get that much enjoyment from games like Burnout this time around... for some reason *just* destroying environments wasnt a "game" to me. Destruction of a game environment should be a by-product of playing a game somewhere in there... the effects in Full Auto still have that "lets show 500 isoceles triangles going everywhere" effect. oh well.

As a gamer/techonfreak I'm excited for the 360's launch... its just weird though... I feel like nothing blows me away from a visual standpoint from the launch lineup but CoD2 and maybe PGR3 ( if I can ever see some gameplay screens)
 
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OK... *shrug* I didnt get that much enjoyment from games like Burnout this time around... for some reason *just* destroying environments wasnt a "game" to me. Destruction of a game environment should be a by-product of playing a game somewhere in there... the effects in Full Auto still have that "lets show 500 isoceles triangles going everywhere" effect. oh well.

Its not just destroying einviroments . Its reshaping the maps . You can create ramps and other things .

If you don't care for the type of game then you should say it . Its hard to talk to someone when they are ignorant of the genre .

As a gamer/techonfreak I'm excited for the 360's launch... its just weird though... I feel like nothing blows me away from a visual standpoint from the launch lineup but CoD2 and maybe PGR3 ( if I can ever see some gameplay screens)

THe only launch that had titles that blew me away was the n64 . Aside from that nothing has blown me away at launch , the titles are allways rushed
 
Dreamcast launch was awesome. Soul Caliber 2, NFL 2k awesome system and great launch.

I played both Burnout and BUrnout 2... I must admit its not my ignorance of teh genre its ahhh. I have a difficult time appreciating it ;)
Crazy taxi with Burnout 2/3 graphics would have me stoked though. Or even with the ability for the taxis to cause massive amounts of damage like Burnout (that what cabs in NYC do every day!) Now that would be cool!
 
I get where you are coming from bj. It's just that you read so many jaded opinions that the next-gen isn't next-gen. IMO the biggest leap ever was from PS1/Saturn to Dreamcast, and everything since has been a slow evolution of perception, artistic ability, technical achievement, and display technology. There's just so many limitations in the current-gen that I welcome the change. I'd actually prefer that if a game was multi-platform for Xbox and PS2, that they simply port it with some higher resolution source art, and maybe a few nicer effects to the 360, then be forced to play it on the older hardware or in backward compatibility mode.

To me there is nothing wrong with the way these first-generation titles are shaping up. Certainly an improvement over what we have today. And as devs come to grips with the hardware, and tools/engines become available with these new platforms in mind, it will only get better. Next-gen will evolve from a Madden, Full-Auto, DOA4, Call of Duty2; to Gears of War, Unreal Tournament 2007, Fight Night 3, on to things like what we are seeing from WarDevil, Dark Sector, Project Offset, and perhaps even approach the Killzone CGI. There is a lot to look foward to.
 
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Dreamcast launch was awesome. Soul Caliber 2, NFL 2k awesome system and great launch.
nfl2k came out 2 years after the launch of the dreamcast .
 
jvd said:
nfl2k came out 2 years after the launch of the dreamcast .

uhhhh... NFL2k was a launch title for the DC in the US. ie 9/9/99

Mefi - I meant Soul Caliber which was Soul Edge 2...

jeesh you guys...
 
blakjedi said:
uhhhh... NFL2k was a launch title for the DC in the US. ie 9/9/99

Mefi - I meant Soul Caliber which was Soul Edge 2...

jeesh you guys...


Dc didn't launch first in the usa . It launched first in japan .

Compare the first teriotys the systems are out for .

Its easier to have a better line up when your platofrm is already 6+ months old when it hits another market
 
jvd said:
Dc didn't launch first in the usa . It launched first in japan .

Compare the first teriotys the systems are out for .

Its easier to have a better line up when your platofrm is already 6+ months old when it hits another market

OK. Then DC launch in the US was awesome with NFL 2K, Soul Caliber, Powerstone, Sonic Adventure, Expendable ( I love that game) and Ready to Rumble to be had. That was a GREAT launch. Best I remember.
 
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