Future of fragment shaders

[KimB]

D'OH

IDE drivers.

What's wrong with their current IDE drivers? I've never had issues, and I have a rather abnormal system (dual-booting with Linux).

 

[Heathen]

They kill half my damn games, quite a few have reported problems with them iirc.

 

[KimB]

They kill half my damn games, quite a few have reported problems with them iirc.

You're going to have to be a whole lot more specific than that.

In particular, you're going to have to rule out other things, as well, such as the hard drive or motherboard.

 

[Heathen]

As in quite a few, big variety of games, fail to run with the IDE drivers installed. Medieval Total War for starters.

In particular, you're going to have to rule out other things, as well, such as the hard drive or motherboard.

A saying about granny, eggs and lessons comes to mind.

 

[KimB]

Well, if you're going to be presenting a problem, you're going to need to show that it is a significant one. Try posting links.

Personally, however, my biggest problem is with the audio drivers. While they are mostly good, I find that there appears to be a memory leak somewhere in the drivers that causes sound to get flakier and flakier as I have a program open for longer (the actual effect varies...usually it is manifested as static, however).

 

[Mariner]

There have certainly been some problems with IDE drivers for nForce recently. NVidia withdrew some of their nForce drivers recently (2.41 and 2.42) as they were causing so many problems. If you search various forums, you can find more information about this without too much problem.

Even the current driver page mentions this towards the top:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp_2.45

 

[Arun]

OT: BTW, I've recently recieved a very, very juicy confirmation on something non-GPU related at nVidia. Very reliable, too. Will leak it in a few days unless my source decides to suddently have objections about it.

A sound card? Please be a sound card.

Sorry, but it does have sound IN it

Although good thing I said non-GPU related here, because considering that darn scrolling noise with my FX5900, it could have been GPU-related if it had sound in it. Or it could be FX Flow like, hehe.

Leaking it in 12 hours or so anyway, but feel free to try to guess anyway Many people thought it was very possible and stuff, so it's hardly a revelation, but I call it a confirmation. First very reliable confirmation of it.


Uttar

 

[Ailuros]

D'OH

IDE drivers.

What's wrong with their current IDE drivers? I've never had issues, and I have a rather abnormal system (dual-booting with Linux).

Early IDE drivers had f.e. problems with CD recording programs. All a user has to do in that case (assuming he uses XP) is to revert to winXP´s default IDE driver; big deal heh.

No problem of course in recent drivers.

 

[KimB]

There have certainly been some problems with IDE drivers for nForce recently. NVidia withdrew some of their nForce drivers recently (2.41 and 2.42) as they were causing so many problems. If you search various forums, you can find more information about this without too much problem.

Even the current driver page mentions this towards the top:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp_2.45

Here's all I see related to IDE drivers:

NOTE: NVIDIA accelerated IDE drivers are not included in this release.

 

[Ailuros]

It still doesn´t change the fact that there had been problems with IDE drivers. Here´s a snip from one of the repair methods from the downloadable instructions file on the link above:

........

9. Upon system restart, right mouse click on My Computer and select Properties
10. Select the “Hardware†tab
11. Click on the “Device Manager†button
12. Expand the section labeled “IDE ATA/ATAPI controllersâ€
13. Left mouse click on the option labeled “NVIDIA NForce(TM) MCP2 IDE Controller†or “NVIDIA® nForce(TM) IDE Controller†(your system will only have one of the above options) (See option2.16.bmp)
14. Right mouse click and select “Update Driver†(See option2.17.bmp)
15. Select “Install from a list of specific location (Advanced)â€
16. Select “Don’t search, I will choose the driver to installâ€
17. Select the driver “Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controllerâ€
18. Reboot.
19. After reboot allow device detection.
20. Reboot again.
21. Everything should now be working correctly.

I think the above is quite self-explanatory.

 

[elroy]

OT: BTW, I've recently recieved a very, very juicy confirmation on something non-GPU related at nVidia. Very reliable, too. Will leak it in a few days unless my source decides to suddently have objections about it.

A sound card? Please be a sound card.

Sorry, but it does have sound IN it

Although good thing I said non-GPU related here, because considering that darn scrolling noise with my FX5900, it could have been GPU-related if it had sound in it. Or it could be FX Flow like, hehe.

Leaking it in 12 hours or so anyway, but feel free to try to guess anyway Many people thought it was very possible and stuff, so it's hardly a revelation, but I call it a confirmation. First very reliable confirmation of it.


Uttar

Not the chipset for the TM8000, is it Uttar?

 

[Colourless]

Chalnoth, stop being such a Nvidia *type of person that I shouldn't mention*...

Even the lack of IDE drivers from Nvidia should be an indication that something is not right with them. Which then makes the reply to your question of, "What's wrong with their current IDE drivers?" rather obvious. They just don't have any.

When they did release IDE drivers, as other have said there were lots and lots of problems for lots and lots of people. So much so they pull the drivers, and the IDE driver hasn't been seen since.

 

[KimB]

Fine. But I had seen no information about the problem before now, and experienced no problems myself. All I was asking was to clarify the problem, which was barely done in a satisfactory manner (the problem wasn't highlighed: just nVidia's reponse).

 

[Ailuros]

It wasn't one problem but several problems they were causing, just because hard- and software configs differ as much, which is understandable too.

When a manufacturer removes two driver revisions and posts three varying methods to get rid of those removed drivers in a donwloadable file, than the problems were definitely there.

You want a discription of the problem? A couple of pretty coasters while attempting to burn CDs.