first r420 review leak
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ok - everything is mirrored on the 3dc board if the computerbase is going down for some reason 
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1776546#post1776546
(btw: where do i get a x800xt?)
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1776546#post1776546
(btw: where do i get a x800xt?)
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Natoma said:Nothing higher than 4xAA in these tests?????
Yeah...even ignoring Temporal AA for the moment...I couls swear that ATI has supported 6X for almost 2 years now. Would be "nice" to see some ATI 6X scores...
jvd said:
You make me laugh with your inability to read and think.
Defense? The point is, a card with a smaller number of pipelines but higher clocks could have just as good performance with a card with more pipes but lower clocks. I use the NV3x as an example, because until the X800 is released, we don't have any hard data except the NV3x vs R300, and because in many scenarios, it did perform as well as an R300. Yes, there were mistakes in the design, but that's not relevant to the general argument. NV3x's poor PS2.0 performance had little to do with its clocks or # of pipelines, and had more do with with register storage and Nx2 organization.
Try to take off your "every argument is about being pro one IHV vs another" blinders. The point is, there are two or more ways to achieve performance: parallelism vs fast serial. SATA vs PATA. Rambus vs DDR. They each have their pros and cons in terms of cost, latency, and size. Neither per-clock performance nor high-clockability alone decide whether or architecture is better.
Unless it already happened, I'm counting down the seconds until the ATi fans roll up and insist that every single benchmark they lose in is either a result of cheating on the part of NVIDIA, cheating on the part of the developer, or just a really crap test. Every benchmark ATi wins is both accurate and without bias.
Tick, tock.
Tick, tock.
But the nv3x is going against your exmpale .
Yes its good on dx 8 games . But it sucks on dx 9 games. WHile the r300 is great on all the games .
So obviously based on the one example we have right now a smaller number of pipelines but higher clocks does not have just as good performance as a card with more pipes but lower clocks .
This is because fillrate and bandwitdh are no longer the only things that matter .
So if you can get off your nvidia is great kick you would see that the nv30 was crap and that the r300 was a much better designed card
Ok, he benched with:
Breed_________TWIMTBP
FarCry________TWIMTBP
Call of Duty____TWIMTBP
Aquamark______benchmark of a TWIMTBP game
X2 the Threat___TWIMTBP
Colin McRae____TWIMTBP
Nascar Thunder 2004__TWIMTBP
Unreal Tournament 2004__TWIMTBP
The only game that I'm not sure of is "Halo-combat evolved". If it's not part of "TWIMTBP" program, I would be very surprised as Halo was a big game for nVidia.
Breed_________TWIMTBP
FarCry________TWIMTBP
Call of Duty____TWIMTBP
Aquamark______benchmark of a TWIMTBP game
X2 the Threat___TWIMTBP
Colin McRae____TWIMTBP
Nascar Thunder 2004__TWIMTBP
Unreal Tournament 2004__TWIMTBP
The only game that I'm not sure of is "Halo-combat evolved". If it's not part of "TWIMTBP" program, I would be very surprised as Halo was a big game for nVidia.
PaulS said:
no fanboyism here so far
if the benchies are real they look good for ati - because the x800 clearly creams the 6800 in dx9 titles with aa/af on.
10fps faster in farcry may not sound a lot - but thats an AVERAGE - and when your average is 40fps to 30fps - thats a HUGE difference
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