First MGS4 screens are on the web (!)

[PC-Engine]

I think it looks about on par with the RE5 trailer, but these pics are a lot busier so I'd put it ahead of RE5. Either way, I'd say this is pretty close to that demo that cannot be mentioned.

I'm pretty sure RE5 will have more than an empty village with nothing going on.

Yea, whatever

I'm sure you think MGS3 looks better than RE4 too.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Why is this turning into a Metal Gear Solid Vs Resident Evil thread? Its funny that your (PC-Engine) commenting on the quality of the visuals and then bashing it for no appearent reason, jump to saying that it looks like a comic book...to it could be CGI to it may be real time but if it is then its not as good as Resident Evil 5? Who said it was better then Resident Evil 5? YOUR the one thats stating this doesn't look as good as Resident Evil 5....

I also love how you put so much validity into the Resident Evil 5 teaser without even knowing yourself if its realtime or not. Has Capcom confirmed that the teaser was real time? or just a proximated guess as to what the PS3/360 can do? It seems you pick and choose the things that fit your perspective the best no matter how ridiculous and incoherent it is.

EDIT: I've seen mckmass and onetimeposter (hasamasd) banned for single posts that really didn't disrupt a thread. Yet, PC-Engine gets no flack for derailing a entire thread? How is that? Must have some type of hook up or something....

 

[Pugger]

Everthing looks great from the scans, however people are going overboard for sure. Theres no scale to the pictures and the ones that do give a snippet of scale seem to show that draw distance is very short and is curtailed by a very bright burnout effect. The characters look great and I'm in motion I'm sure it will look stunning.

 

[RavenFox]

I don't think anyone is saying it doesn't look good assuming it's realtime and not concept art. I was just expecting more after seeing what Capcom is doing with RE5. RE4 looks better than MGS3 so I guess I should've expected this..*shrug*.

That was a CG trailer.

 

[BlueTsunami]

RE4 looks better than MGS3 so I guess I should've expected this

I missed that. I'm shocked....I guess as he gets more and more confortable here...testing where the lines are drawn...it allows him to make comments like that.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

If you take out UE3 nice lighting. Lighting in MGS4 looks very flat.

If they've gone for a comic-book look then it will look different (flat). But it's not just flat lighting that's contributing to it's look. Creating non-photorealistic/artistic renders is an emergent field and can take a lot more to achieve then just compressing the dynamic range. What's your take on Okami? Do you rate that very low on the visuals because it's flat shaded?

And as for 'village with nothing going on' these are all close-ups!

 

[PC-Engine]

to it could be CGI

Where did I say it could be CGI???

it may be real time but if it is then its not as good as Resident Evil 5? Who said it was better then Resident Evil 5? YOUR the one thats stating this doesn't look as good as Resident Evil 5...

Yeah I was the one who said it looks worse than RE5 and? You got a problem with that? If you do then maybe you should explain why it doesn't? BTW I have lots of confidence in what Capcom will be able to pull off with RE5 looking at what they've done with RE4. You gotta be smoking something hallucinogenic to think Capcom cannot achieve what they showed in the RE5 trailer whether it was realtime or not.

BTW YOU are derailing this thread not me.

I missed that. I'm shocked....I guess as he gets more and more confortable here...testing where the lines are drawn...it allows him to make comments like that.

Shocked? Why? Because you actually think MGS3 looks better than RE4?

That was a CG trailer.

Irrelevent.

If they've gone for a comic-book look then it will look different (flat). But it's not just flat lighting that's contributing to it's look. Creating non-photorealistic/artistic renders is an emergent field and can take a lot more to achieve then just compressing the dynamic range. What's your take on Okami? Do you rate that very low on the visuals because it's flat shaded?

And as for 'village with nothing going on' these are all close-ups!

I think Okami is artistic, but the game concept is not based on realism so it's ok. As for the empty village remark, I was responding to the remark about MGS4 being more busy than RE5. Comparing the busyness between MGS4 and RE5 is pointless anyway.

 

[two]

If that's realtime then it's not really what I was hoping for. I was hoping for RE5 quality visuals.

Look at the DMC 4 scans

 

[rabidrabbit]

Damn already, PC-Engine, you've been very quiet for the period there was no new PS3 news, but as soon as these MGS4 screens emerged you were quick to jump on trolling the thread. Why do you have to do that? For your own amusement??

 

[two]

Exactly!

Looks more like something called concept art...

http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/5434/mgs4016zd.jpg

This is MGS concept art.

 

[PC-Engine]

Damn already, PC-Engine, you've been very quiet for the period there was no new PS3 news, but as soon as these MGS4 screens emerged you were quick to jump on trolling the thread. Why do you have to do that? For your own amusement??

Why can't you just accept someone's opinion and move on?

As for DMC4, it looks good if it's not concept art. It's not flat like MGS4. Anyway like I've said already, to me MGS3 looks worse than RE4 and MGS4 looks worse than RE5. A lot of the stuff from the scans look like concept art so I'll wait for the realtime video clips.

http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/5434/mgs4016zd.jpg

This is MGS concept art.

And?

 

[rabidrabbit]

I can't accept your opinion because based on your track record it's not an opinion but a flamebait and it's working!

 

[BlueTsunami]

Irrelevent.

Wow....

As far as the Resident Evil, Metal Gear thing. I like both of them but you can clearly see that Kojima is going for something different. I'm pretty sure Kojima strives for realism but is more or less tries to somewhat break away from it. Like I said earlier, the lines on (Snakes?) face have a ZOE feel to them. Resident Evil takes us to a more realistic venue so we can see what it would be like to actually be in a town infested with zombies.

As far as the videos go

1) We haven't SEEN the MGS4 video yet
2) Resident Evil 5's video hasn't been CONFIRMED to be real time (where just going off of PC-Engines faith in Capcom ...possibly other factors to
3) With the same logic as PC-Engine, I could say Killzone 2 (visuals) is a reality...simply because I have faith in Gorilla.

 

[London Geezer]

3) With the same logic as PC-Engine, I could say Killzone 2 (visuals) is a reality...simply because I have faith in Gorilla.

Don't say the name!! It's You-Know-What.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Don't say the name!! It's You-Know-What.

It has to be done. He (the one I shall not name) is a hyprocrite. Its ridiculous that hes still here and it seems like a blind eye is being turned for him. I should say it ends here...but i'm fed up with it. How many times must PC-Engine derail a thread and TWIST it into a direction he wants? I would have stayed quite (as I have in the past) and seeth from beyond the monitor...but i'm, personally, fed up with it.

Its not just an opinion by PC-Engine by the way. Any person with any ounce of people skills can tell theirs intent in his remarks...hence the constant winking.

 

[PC-Engine]

With the same logic as PC-Engine, I could say Killzone 2 (visuals) is a reality...simply because I have faith in Gorilla.

Not really the same logic since:

1. Capcom has a much better track record of delivering on their promises than Gorilla.

2. KZ clearly looks like CGI while RE5 doesn't.

 

[Arty]

How many times must PC-Engine derail a thread and TWIST it into a direction he wants?

It wouldnt work if you or others stopped paying attention to his posts.

 

[PC-Engine]

It wouldnt work if you or others stopped paying attention to his posts.

Exactly..isn't that what the ignore function is for?

Any person with any ounce of people skills can tell theirs intent in his remarks...hence the constant winking.

You should read your own posts.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Not really the same logic since:

1. Capcom has a much better track record of delivering on their promises than Gorilla..

I knew you would say that....so...I will turn into you....

Irrelevent

2. KZ clearly looks like CGI while RE5 doesn't.

heh....I whole hartedly think that also...but coming from you...I had the knee jerk reaction of thinking it was just another PC-Engine comment. I wonder why.

You should read your own posts.

I guess sarcasm detection isn't your strong point?

It wouldnt work if you or others stopped paying attention to his posts.

That would be fine. Thing is...I follow the rules of these boards (I don't do it because their rules, just out of common courtisy). But if I follow him...so should he. I also think that it sets an example if he can stay on while doing this...whos to say someone more...vocal..then him comes on these boards and follows suite with his actions thinking its ok?.....we should make a petition or something...this is that bad.

 

[seismologist]

can't wait to see this in motion