Fable 2

[AlphaWolf]

So now I'm low on cash, looked like a douchbag, have a wife and kid I don't want, 3 piss poor businesses....maybe I'll start the main quest tomorrow?

You just need a good PR person to spruce up your image and some saudi backing, it worked for W.

 

[Arwin]

I have about 4 grand worth of rent i'm collecting but i only recieve 2 grand. Anyone else havin these problems ?

High-income tax?

 

[Scott_Arm]

I don't have to go to the gym tonight or anything, so I'm going to play some more and hopefully still be able to get to bed early.

I tried co-op online. Fun, but not the best implementation. The camera online really really sucks. I don't mind the henchman thing so much, but using your real avatar would be cooler. I had some bugs playing online with dropped sounds. For some reason I could only hear dialogue and the odd sound, but single player it's fine.

So far, nobody in my friends list is playing this game, so I haven't seen the orbs. Don't think I want to open that feature up to the world.

 

[scooby_dooby]

One other thing - I always play magic/mage characters in games. Switching spells in Fable is pretty awful, unless I'm missing something. I bought the slow spell, and the fireball spell. Switching requires me to stop dead, hold RT, push right on the Dpad (meaning taking me hand off the movement controls completely), and then releasing RT. But when I cast slow - with a view I can stop a baddie in his tracks, then flame him while running away - the effect stops if I change spells. Grrr. I should RTFM before complaining, but it doesn't seem to reward being pure mages just yet.

Ya switchign skills is very cumbersome in battle, but on the bright side the upper level spells are AWESOME. I just got level 4 Shock, it does something ridiculous like 1400 area damage and the hit range is huge, so you charge that up, let it go, and can easily kill 10+ enemies in one shot. So you will definately be rewarded!

Basically it's just a matter of arranging the different spell levels wisely, I like to keep a quick spell like fireball on level 1, this gives you an nice long range projectile attack that you can rapid-fire extremely quickly, and fireball has a nice knockdown effect that is handy when being rushed.

Then on level 2 I have my slow time spell, so anytime I want to slow time I just have to do a slight charge, then I have level 3 and 4 both set to shock, and these are my real powerhouse attacks.

So depending on how you arrange it, it can work really well. I'm thinkign of adding a Raise Undead or Chaos spell to my level 3 which would balance out my attack a little.

With all that said, you're not gonna want to play this game as a pure mage. It really rewards using all skills, you get higher experience bonuses by using combinations, and unlocking "Skill" abilities will actually increase you moveset, giving you a roll (which is a must), additional combo's, lock-on targeting etc...Increasing your lifebar and defense require Strength, and a big lifebar is a necessity for any self respecitng mage...so really it's important to balance your attack if you want to have a strong character. For me it's usually a matter of Shocking a bunch of baddies, then either blowing their heads off, or hack them to bits while their stunned.

 

[eastmen]

High-income tax?

no idea. I'm going to buy another property and see if it goes up.

 

[Scott_Arm]

I'd rather be at home right now. It sucks when you get a new game and you're very busy at work/home and can't play.

One other thing I'll mention:

Framerate seems low at times, and I'm not sensitive to tearing at all, but there have been some points where it seemed like there was a lot of tearing.

 

[RancidLunchmeat]

R1: Can you murder your wife and do a late term abortion?

I just got done reading the co-op thread at Lionhead and wow, people seem really ticked. Is the entire problem that people can't 'see' your character if they join your Co-op, or are there actually game play ramifications?

For instance, we were told originally to be careful of whose game we joined because that person could (for example) slaughter your wife and kids and ruin your game. Is that still true?

 

[RobertR1]

R1: Can you murder your wife and do a late term abortion?

I just got done reading the co-op thread at Lionhead and wow, people seem really ticked. Is the entire problem that people can't 'see' your character if they join your Co-op, or are there actually game play ramifications?

For instance, we were told originally to be careful of whose game we joined because that person could (for example) slaughter your wife and kids and ruin your game. Is that still true?

No abortion. Trust me, it pissed me off also! I plan to kill her and then sell the house and the let it be an orphan on the street. I found someone hotter anyway and my value has gone up. I'm sick of her being needy!

I haven't tried to co-op but I guess if they're in your game, they likely wreak havoc? I don't plan on doing co-op on my first playthrough since I want it all about my actions and choices.

 

[Scott_Arm]

R1: Can you murder your wife and do a late term abortion?

I just got done reading the co-op thread at Lionhead and wow, people seem really ticked. Is the entire problem that people can't 'see' your character if they join your Co-op, or are there actually game play ramifications?

For instance, we were told originally to be careful of whose game we joined because that person could (for example) slaughter your wife and kids and ruin your game. Is that still true?

By default co-op is set to friends only, auto-join. I changed mine to approval for joining. I want to go looking for people set to "world" or "everyone" with auto-join, because you can mess with everything ... ha ha ha.

Edit: My problem with co-op is you lose control of the camera and the computer manages the camera for you, and at times does a very bad job.

 

[Moloch]

So another 3-4hours spent and I still haven't gotten the main quest started. I know because the name of the quest is "the journey begins."

Got a girl to marry me and while she was following me, I accidentally bought a house in the middle of the night. Turns out it was occupied with just a mother and a daughter at home. The daughter was as sad as can be and she walked out with nothing in hand, at which I pointed a finger and laughed while my dog pissed on her.

Getting that emo drama wrapped up, the wife was quite turned on already so a little sex was in order. Used the condom from before and went at it! Then it was off to my job as a Blacksmith in the morning. Worked hard and got 4/5 stars completed on Blacksmith working with nothing but my briefs on Saved up the money and bought three cheap merchant stands which now net me a cool $39 a day. Yeah, it sucks actually. A hard day's work and I get a buzz from the wife about being horny and needing action. Being 100% man, I stroll on home and go at it. Now the bitch is pregnant and I have a kid. If that's not bad enough, she's bitching that our furniture isn't as good as some other families.......

Back luck comes in 3 as they say. The second being, no more job. I show up and get told no job available! Then to finish it off right, I goto impress a merchant to get him to like me and sell me his shop for cheap. Instead I piss him off and I get arrested. Just for fun, I give community service a shot and it turns out me having to take out a few punk bandits.

No problem I say but who is gonna respect me with no clothes!? Found a nice tailor and spent way too much looking like a Captain Morgan's bottle picture. So I meet up with the bandits and think cake walk! Not at all. They almost had me knocked down. These suckers could block amazingly well! Some were sword and other range so I had to come up with a quick strategy. Eventually I won without being scarred up and came back.

So now I'm low on cash, looked like a douchbag, have a wife and kid I don't want, 3 piss poor businesses....maybe I'll start the main quest tomorrow?

This would be a great post to quote out of context

 

[PARANOiA]

Ya switchign skills is very cumbersome in battle, but on the bright side the upper level spells are AWESOME. I just got level 4 Shock, it does something ridiculous like 1400 area damage and the hit range is huge, so you charge that up, let it go, and can easily kill 10+ enemies in one shot. So you will definately be rewarded!

Basically it's just a matter of arranging the different spell levels wisely, I like to keep a quick spell like fireball on level 1, this gives you an nice long range projectile attack that you can rapid-fire extremely quickly, and fireball has a nice knockdown effect that is handy when being rushed.

Then on level 2 I have my slow time spell, so anytime I want to slow time I just have to do a slight charge, then I have level 3 and 4 both set to shock, and these are my real powerhouse attacks.

So depending on how you arrange it, it can work really well. I'm thinkign of adding a Raise Undead or Chaos spell to my level 3 which would balance out my attack a little.

With all that said, you're not gonna want to play this game as a pure mage. It really rewards using all skills, you get higher experience bonuses by using combinations, and unlocking "Skill" abilities will actually increase you moveset, giving you a roll (which is a must), additional combo's, lock-on targeting etc...Increasing your lifebar and defense require Strength, and a big lifebar is a necessity for any self respecitng mage...so really it's important to balance your attack if you want to have a strong character. For me it's usually a matter of Shocking a bunch of baddies, then either blowing their heads off, or hack them to bits while their stunned.

Thanks for the tips. I put in a couple of hours last night, but I didn't really manage to get too far into combat sequences. I bought two cheap properties giving me 136g every five mins, which should hopefully give me a platform to buy more property down the track. The Master Chief armour gives me a pretty good stat boost to start with so I can not stress about gear just yet too.

Hope you don't mind me asking stupid questions. With spells, I managed to buy level 2 fireball, and I can see that holding the button to charge it increases the power. Does this mean tapping B only fires level 1 fireball by default? Charging is hard in the middle of a battle when a dozen guys run at you. I'm really confused about how the actual magic system works. I can see the spell bar pop up when I use a spell, but it's not always clear as to which level I'm casting at any time.

Can you explain exactly how you're controlling spell switching when you switch between Shock and Slow? If you have one at level 2, and one at level 4, is it just a matter of hold B until level 2 is selected, then hold B until level 4 is selected? Are you switching via the Dpad at all during this time?

Oh, and as for the mix of skills, I have levelled up the health bar one, which I'll no doubt max out alternating between my fireball spell. Damage > health for me in games (I'd rather kill them quickly than be able to survive a slower fight) but the initial health bar is so tiny!

Thanks in advance.

I love the fact that the extra stuff in the CE includes the title "Master Chief". Now I'm walking through town and having kids follow me saying, "who are you going to kill today, Master Chief?" in this really cute voice. I also got my web game bonuses from the link earlier in the thread in game too... I love the fact that in game content is blended with meta-game and ARG-type inputs. I hope more games take this path moving forward, rather than simply having ad/viral campaigns that are completely disconnected from the actual experience on your telly.

Oh and I didn't like the fact that the CE content was all on disc I have it, but imagine those poor suckers that missed out on their copy, and not being able to access the fun stuff. Make it free in three months or something so everyone gets to have the "full" experience, please, MS!

 

[AlNom]

Oh and I didn't like the fact that the CE content was all on disc I have it, but imagine those poor suckers that missed out on their copy, and not being able to access the fun stuff. Make it free in three months or something so everyone gets to have the "full" experience, please, MS!

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they offered it for some fee. For example, there are gamer pictures and themes for Mass Effect from the LE that only "recently" became available on XBLM.

 

[DrJay24]

I took R1's advice and did a few nice trade ins to get Fable 2. I'm at the first cave. So far it's like Fable 1. I like the voice acting and accents. I don't like the screen tearing and load times, but no biggy.

So now I have four new games to play and barely any time to play

 

[Tap In]

...don't like the screen tearing and load times, but no biggy.
..

didn't notice screen tear (I will now, no doubt! , if it's there) and load times are brief enough to not be a distraction, much less no doubt upon release of the install feature

 

[eastmen]

didn't notice screen tear (I will now, no doubt! , if it's there) and load times are brief enough to not be a distraction, much less no doubt upon release of the install feature

The load times is horrible actually. I think its almost as bad as mass effect. I can't wait for the install feature. I hope I can get it early through the major nelson stuff

 

[Scott_Arm]

The load times don't bother me at all. I guess my definition of horrible is different.

I'm totally hooked. It's pretty late. Made a lot of money as a blacksmith so I could pay for a number of properties.

I got a married woman drunk and had her follow me to a room at the inn. Apparently that doesn't count against your purity ... ha ha ha! Can you have illegitimate kids with married women? Maybe I'll find out.

 

[scooby_dooby]

Hope you don't mind me asking stupid questions. With spells, I managed to buy level 2 fireball, and I can see that holding the button to charge it increases the power. Does this mean tapping B only fires level 1 fireball by default?

Yup, tapping will fire off whatever spell you have assigned to level 1. As you hold down, you're charge increases and each time it does you can use the spell assigned to that level.

If you have one at level 2, and one at level 4, is it just a matter of hold B until level 2 is selected, then hold B until level 4 is selected?

Yup, exactly. So you can charge up a 2nd level slow time, once it's cast you can then fire off any other spell(s) you want (of the ones that are currently assigned). So you could combine a lvl 1 slow time, giving you time to fire off a a lvl 2 fire area attack for some good damage. Or the other way around, and do a more powerful slow time, and then go crazy with the lvl 1 fireball.

At lower levels it's pretty limiting as you just have the 2 spell slots available, but once you get up to lvl 3 or 4 you can start having alot of fun with the system.

 

[ErnstH]

Some interesting info I found on Neogaf. Seems Fable II is selling really well.

If anyone is interested in sales age stuff....

I track a ton of game related stuff using gamercard extrapolations (primarily for XBLA games), but dive into boxed titles once in awhile to validate VGC or NPD data. It's pretty accurate stuff if you know what your looking at, and can make apt comparisons.

At any rate, Fable 2 is doing insane to the nth degree, and is tearing up most openings/models I've observed of gamercard usage.

What that means is that there are only 2 games that have ever shot up mygamercard.net or 360voice.com so quickly: Halo 3 and Grand Theft Auto IV.

Outside of those 2 titles, no game has sold so quickly - Although COD4 has certainly built up over time to do strongly.

Having said all of that, Fable 2 should easily clear 1 million units in October for NPD data. I wouldn't be surprised if it was higher (1.2-1.5m).

 

[Arwin]

I think Fable will sell really well. The original Fable sold well (3 million?) and looking at Halo related sales definitely a large cross-section of the original Xbox demographic is now on the 360. Fable 2 seems to be a superior game to the original. The game also offers a different kind of experience to many of the other games, even compared to the JRPGs on the system. Five million doesn't seem out of the question, but we'll see soon enough how well the game does during the hot-season.

 

[Rangers]

Some interesting info I found on Neogaf. Seems Fable II is selling really well.

Thats interesting, that guy mentioned in another GAF post that he was looking into a novel way of tracking game sales, just making sure it was fully legal before unveiling it (on VGchartz I believe).

I'm sure it's something to do with the gamercards. But it could be another interesting sales point in the future.