Eye Of Judgement

[Arwin]

Pretty good thread here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196758

There definitely seems to be an enthusiastic audience out there ... no idea how well this will be taken up overall, but reviews are pretty decent (80% average) and penny arcade wrote some pithy words:

As a cool Augmented Reality play by Sony and Hasbro, the whole thing is just kind of... noble. I say noble, because I'm not sure it will find a home in either camp - the dedicated electronic gamer, or the CCG enthusiast. It should, I believe it should, because it's a solid product that bridges those disciplines in a unique and satisfying way - but this idea is much bigger than Eye of Judgment. When you consider what this could mean for the tabletop, I think we may rightly call this The Beginning.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/08/01

 

[Gradthrawn]

Good God Almighty, if there was ever a game that needed custom soundtracks, this is it! Two songs for the whole game (one for battle, one for battle in check)?!?

Other than that, I'm really enjoying it. Skill seems to be as important as your deck (if not more so). That includes the skill of knowing your deck (even if its only the deck + booster you get with the game).

I've found light is the most critical factor for recognition. Have a nice lamp in the general vicinity providing a little support light (in addition to a room's normal lighting) and the EyePlay shouldn't have any problems reading the cards. Tons of settings for adjustment if you want, or you can just leave it on auto.

Built in tutorial is great. Covers almost everything. I just wish there was a pause, fast forward, rewind button, in addition to the current chapter skip buttons.

This game, or platform, has a lot of potential. There's a lot of opportunity here to expand the game and its appeal greatly. Which it seems SCEJ has in mind, as the game will check for new versions of itself at start-up if you want it to.

 

[tanksrule]

hey guys I need an opinion on Eye of Judgement. It's a new PS3 package containing the game, playing cards, and playsation eye...basically combining card gaming and console gaming, with awesome graphics of beasts and baddies etc. Apparently (at least one reviewer reckons) the one player mode is quite challenging and addictive but you can also go online...well of course you can. Has anyone played it, and is the eye better than the old one that was kicking around? anyway...if you know holla

 

[Shifty Geezer]

It'd be worth doing a quick search on PlayStation Eye to read up on the subject, as it's had a reasonable amount of coverage from us. The camera is much improved from the original, and EOJ as it's own game thread in the games forum. In fact this thread ought to go there, so I'll merge it.

 

[patsu]

For gameplay related info, you can also check here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196758&highlight=judgment
Those guys are already all over the game. According to some of them, the game can be addictive (People wasting all day or even night to play against others online).

I have a copy but am still admiring the cards and rules. I need to clear out some table space for a proper play area.

EDIT: Another PS Eye thread is here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=39118

EDIT 2: Free EoJ Card Manager: http://www.eojmanager.com/

 

[XeRo]

For gameplay related info, you can also check here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196758&highlight=judgment
Those guys are already all over the game. According to some of them, the game can be addictive (People wasting all day or even night to play against others online).

I have a copy but am still admiring the cards and rules. I need to clear out some table space for a proper play area.

EDIT: Another PS Eye thread is here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=39118

EDIT 2: Free EoJ Card Manager: http://www.eojmanager.com/

I have been following that thread for awhile. Those guys seem to love it. If Sony made it Yu-Gi-Oh, I would be all over this game.

 

[tanksrule]

cheers. looks pretty tasty.

 

[Arwin]

It should end up in the stores this week over here ... let's see if I can resist it! There's a lot of expensive games I need to buy the coming months.

 

[cthellis42]

I kinda thought this game would be a lot more shallow, strategy-wise, than it is, but after sitting down with it for a while and looking at it, I reversed my opinion completely. Not having a huge amount of experience with it so far, I don't know how the overall balance is... but it's certainly more fun and compelling than a boatload of CCG's to come out of late!

Getting the game package is pretty good value, too. The $40 camera and $19 worth of cards... you're basically spending $11 on the game itself. (Obviously in the hopes that you'll be feeding them lots MORE on the cards. ) If you have any real inclination toward the game, I don't see how you can go wrong picking it up to try out.

 

[Arwin]

Yes, if we got the US price here in Europe it'd have been a nobrainer. But the first one I came across in the shop (yesterday) costs 99 euro. Where the standalone PS Eye will cost 39 ... so that's a full 60 euros for EoJ.

 

[JPT]

I saw it in a store here in Norway the other day, it was about 242 USD for pack, that would be about 164 Euro.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Yes, if we got the US price here in Europe it'd have been a nobrainer. But the first one I came across in the shop (yesterday) costs 99 euro. Where the standalone PS Eye will cost 39 ... so that's a full 60 euros for EoJ.

The depressing thing is that this will send out a negative signal for the market. 'Europe's not into camera/card games'. EoJ is the primary pusher of the PSEye. As EyeToy Play and Wii Play and a host of other titles have shown over the years, if you want to push product adoption, you need a value-for-money bundle. EoJ comes in at the same price as separate items, which places the value of the game head to head with other full-priced titles.

It's a bad call. Whoever picked that price-point should be given a smack!

 

[Gradthrawn]

The depressing thing is that this will send out a negative signal for the market. 'Europe's not into camera/card games'. EoJ is the primary pusher of the PSEye. As EyeToy Play and Wii Play and a host of other titles have shown over the years, if you want to push product adoption, you need a value-for-money bundle. EoJ comes in at the same price as separate items, which places the value of the game head to head with other full-priced titles.

It's a bad call. Whoever picked that price-point should be given a smack!

I find this to be odd, considering how much better SCEE handled the original EyeToy than SCEA. Maybe they've (SCEE) decided to use PSN titles to the be primary pusher for the EyePlay in Europe, due to their low cost of entry. We don't have any of those titles/screen savers over here in NA.

 

[Arwin]

The reverse could be true: SCEA is selling the EyeToy at a lower cost BECAUSE it's less established in that region vs SCEE.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Hmmm, hoping to sell PSEye on the strength of an interactive music visualization and a artsy-fartsy Japanese picture flypass? A little optimistic me-thinks! CCGs certainly do well in the UK, so EoJ would make sense here to push the system. Dunno about continental Europe.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

The reverse could be true: SCEA is selling the EyeToy at a lower cost BECAUSE it's less established in that region vs SCEE.

That makes sense to some degree, but the marketing guys at SCEE should primarily be thinking how to get people to buy into this system. EyeToy wouldn't have sold without Play. Play established the market, but also created an expectation. EyeToy was there for motion games. I can't see the existing EyeToy owners picking up a PSEye without similar expectations of Play like games, and those expectations won't be met. There is no Play HD. The new camera is clearly trying to get some distance from that stereotype to spawn more diversity. Understandable as ET was totally underused, but in that case they need to sell it as a new product with new features. EoJ should be 'the card game, that happens to have a camera' and so get the cameras into people's homes. Without EoJ, there's very little reason to get a PSEye, and there's no news on upcoming major titles that'll help push it either. It's pretty much a one trick pony at this point in time, and it's an expensive trick.

 

[archangelmorph]

That makes sense to some degree, but the marketing guys at SCEE should primarily be thinking how to get people to buy into this system. EyeToy wouldn't have sold without Play. Play established the market, but also created an expectation. EyeToy was there for motion games. I can't see the existing EyeToy owners picking up a PSEye without similar expectations of Play like games, and those expectations won't be met. There is no Play HD. The new camera is clearly trying to get some distance from that stereotype to spawn more diversity. Understandable as ET was totally underused, but in that case they need to sell it as a new product with new features. EoJ should be 'the card game, that happens to have a camera' and so get the cameras into people's homes. Without EoJ, there's very little reason to get a PSEye, and there's no news on upcoming major titles that'll help push it either. It's pretty much a one trick pony at this point in time, and it's an expensive trick.

Well none that can be spoken about officially..

 

[Shifty Geezer]

We've heard of a number in development. I think it was about 8 or 9. Of those we've had about 6 or so with all the download titles. There hasn't been any mention at all of a new EyeToy Play, which I think really important. It may be buried as one of those unnamed titles in development, and it is a 'no brainer' creation, but if so, and it's due soon, I'd have thought that'd be something to make a noise about and make people more receptive to getting a PSEye now. Or putting it another way, you buy PSEye for EoJ and a few knick-knacks, and seemingly that's it. 100 Euros for a one off title is too much. EyeToy sold as a 'one off' because it cost no more than a normal game.

 

[patsu]

For two players you'd need more booster packs, although player vs the computer is plenty fun until those booster packs are acquired. I've already spent a fair bit of money on boosters, so on one hand you may want to stay away if you fear getting sucked in... but on the other, it's worth getting sucked into!

See what I mean, xbd ?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8534518&postcount=1231

So I just got my casual friend to buy the game. He thought it was a nice little idea.

He gets the game and doesnt open it up for a week (damn casuals). Ok so he finally gets to playing it yesterday and is completely blown away. The man played from 5PM to 4AM yesterday (with the computer no less). Now hes on a rampage trying to find booster/theme packs which are still incredibly hard to find for some dumb reason. Just had a conversation with him where he's praising the crap out of it telling me its going to take off.

 

[Arwin]

I caved ... I ended up wanting this most of the titles, especially since it contains the PS Eye (for which I immediately also tried EyeCreate - pretty decent - Trials of Topoc, bigger than I thought, and also more fun than it looked originally, even if it doesn't immediately blow you away and some of it is set up a bit rough, I played through the first set of levels in one session, and of course Aqua Vita, which apart from being able to interact with the water surface, has an increasing amount of fish of a certain type (and one or two bigger ones eventually) following any slow movements you make, and then disband after a while or if you make a sudden movement.)

Then finally I tried a few games of Eye of Judgment at beginner level and after getting used to how the game works and recognises the cards (which all went pretty quickly!) I must say I'm surprised at how easily and quickly a game is set up ... This really works very well! I'm liking it much more than I thought.