Epic Says This Is What Next-Gen Should Look Like
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More shots here
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26256064&postcount=2
Not as impressive as I'd hoped. They said it was going to be as awesome as the original brumak UE3 trailer/screens were. Maybe the video will be better.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26256064&postcount=2
Not as impressive as I'd hoped. They said it was going to be as awesome as the original brumak UE3 trailer/screens were. Maybe the video will be better.
L. Scofield
Veteran
Damn!
Sub-surface scattering? Didn't Crytek beat everyone to the punch with that in CryEngine2 ?
Screw more detailed muscled monsters (human or otherwise) in crappy looking armour.
How about they get clothing and hair right? Now that would be a step forward. Oh wait that can't be leveraged on antique consoles whereas you can just throw lod and simplified shaders at this sort of stuff to get it to run.
Even when Epic tries to model a human in a jacket the jacket still looks like GoW armour ...
How about they get clothing and hair right? Now that would be a step forward. Oh wait that can't be leveraged on antique consoles whereas you can just throw lod and simplified shaders at this sort of stuff to get it to run.
Even when Epic tries to model a human in a jacket the jacket still looks like GoW armour ...
I could get behind this. I especially like the lighting with the picture of the cars with headlights facing us.
Regarding what MfA said with cloth and hair. The hair could use a bit of work but it isn't horrible. Clothing is still something that doesn't look quite right, I don't know if it just needs overall higher resolution in textures, or if they shaders they use just aren't doing a good job of giving it an authentic cloth look.
Regarding what MfA said with cloth and hair. The hair could use a bit of work but it isn't horrible. Clothing is still something that doesn't look quite right, I don't know if it just needs overall higher resolution in textures, or if they shaders they use just aren't doing a good job of giving it an authentic cloth look.
The hair in those shots (in the link) look pretty damn good.
I am not a big fan of UE3 but if with the new version they fix all the problems they have to bring a smooth experience to consoles when trying to add effects like MSAA, then I want to run on the hype train too.
Some of the pics are amazing and show techniques that Crytek has been doing for some time now. Thanks for sharing. I posted the pics elsewhere but this is a more appropriate thread in the context.
Some of the pics are amazing and show techniques that Crytek has been doing for some time now. Thanks for sharing. I posted the pics elsewhere but this is a more appropriate thread in the context.
Thats utterly impressive heavy tech going on there and it looks like CGI. The resamblance to Blade Runner is great and visuals actually close to movie to. I'll bet that requires a beast of a system to run.
Yap,they look very CGish.Seems like they are finally fixing some things that UE3 is infamously known for.I mean on DOF and hair by that:smile:
HollovVpo1nt
Newcomer
Epic said that this demo was running on a GTX 580, and that all the licencees already have this engine, becouse when Epic update the engines they do it for all licencees.
So.. what are the odds that Batman: Arkham City will look like that?
So.. what are the odds that Batman: Arkham City will look like that?
Fixed it for you.
Fixed it for you.
actually at neogaf the yare saying it was on amd radeon hd 5x00 hardware.
There's been a lot of different fake solutions ever since the first UE3 release. One early ATI Rubi tech demo had it too, probably the first (where they render a lightmap into texture space and blur it repeatedly).
I wouldn't call any of these subsurface scattering though, more like translucency or fake skin shading. Even the name SSS implies that you actually scatter light within the volume, which none of the realtime fakes can actually do.
This looks more like an incremental upgrade than UE4 or anything radical. They're basically adding cosmetic features:
- bokeh DOF is a new post processing filter
- better shadows probably still don't mean a full dynamic lighting system or deferred rendering, just a new shadow algorithm (suggested by use of MSAA, although it also probably means they've done some architectural changes?)
- tessellation also doesn't have much of an effect on anything larger within the renderer
- reflection and skin shader stuff are probably just the old methods utilizing new DX11 shader features
Overall I find Frostbite 2 to be far more impressive so far. Better colors and contrast, very nice lighting, those visuals are really a step above practically everything else. This one is looking like "just" more of the same.
- bokeh DOF is a new post processing filter
- better shadows probably still don't mean a full dynamic lighting system or deferred rendering, just a new shadow algorithm (suggested by use of MSAA, although it also probably means they've done some architectural changes?)
- tessellation also doesn't have much of an effect on anything larger within the renderer
- reflection and skin shader stuff are probably just the old methods utilizing new DX11 shader features
Overall I find Frostbite 2 to be far more impressive so far. Better colors and contrast, very nice lighting, those visuals are really a step above practically everything else. This one is looking like "just" more of the same.
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
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You've got to watch out for these hyper-featured advertising reels. We've seen it time and time again that these engines houses can put out demos with amazing features, but we never see them in games. There's too much high end hardware required to get these images alone. No one runs them in a game, let alone a game that will sell on enough lower systems to make a financially viable product. No one makes games or the high end content that is only going to be seen by a fraction of a percent of their target audience.
So while these images look great, and while the engine can produce all these features and special effects, going by past history, we may not actually see them in games.
So while these images look great, and while the engine can produce all these features and special effects, going by past history, we may not actually see them in games.
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