Egg on ATI's face?

[mikechai]

and if you think a x800pro is 70% faster than 6800ultra, your smoking somthing hallucinogenic.

True the picture isn't real but then again we don't have a R420 in our hands so for all we know it could be 70% faster in some cases. Take a step back and look at the big picture before spouting senseless biased crap. Oh and I thought it was the CEO of nVidia that was smoking something hallucinogenic...

Are we abusing the "hallucinogenic" quote ?

 

[digitalwanderer]

Are we abusing the "hallucinogenic" quote ?

I believe the correct term in this case would be "over-dosing" on the hallucinogenic quote...

 

[BRiT]

I wonder what he snacked on when getting the munchies...

 

[indio]

with settings in very hight , water ultra high , 1024*768 , AA 4X and anisotropic 8x, render mode cold

http://galeon.hispavista.com/oritxupolite/img/FarCry 2004-04-22 02-31-56-42.JPG

edit /sorry, 9800 pro 440/370+p4 3,5 +1024 mb ddr 400

which map is it?

the very beginning of regulator

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Why can't we agree that no one other than Dave knows what ATI intended to release next week(if that).

All this speculation is starting to get abit long. Not that speculation is bad understand .. it's just GETTING A BIT LONG.

Relax, sit back and wait for Monday(oh btw the Tuesday is a Holiday here).



US

 

[Evildeus]

Sixty Eight frames per second beats the current Nv40 numbers if that shot is legit..they used the ingame settings and set everything to very high and ingame anisotropic to 4.

http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2004q2/geforce-6800ultra/farcry.gif

Great you take the FPS of 1 SS and then decide than the 6800U is slower?

 

[Evildeus]

Evildeus, can you find some graphs about NV40@8x and 9800@6x in TRAOD? Since TRAOD is the name mentioned.

I've searched, but unfortunately no 8*AA but it seems that @ 16*12 + 8* AA, the 6800 is barely faster than a 5950U

 

[Hanners]

Is it possible those two FC shots were slides in ATi's presentation, and ATi showed the FRAPS shot second after asking the audience to guess a framerate?

Or the FRAPS number was edited out of the image at ATi's request? I'm not in the mood to start zooming in on images to find out either way.

 

[dream caster]

and if you think a x800pro is 70% faster than 6800ultra, your smoking somthing hallucinogenic.

True the picture isn't real but then again we don't have a R420 in our hands so for all we know it could be 70% faster in some cases. Take a step back and look at the big picture before spouting senseless biased crap. Oh and I thought it was the CEO of nVidia that was smoking something hallucinogenic...

Are we abusing the "hallucinogenic" quote ?

after all the abusing Nvidia gave us last year, . . YES.

 

[PVR_Extremist]

Well, that's settled it then. Both offerings will be great cards for Microsoft Office 2003 and Solitaire.....

 

[DoS]

This thread is about egg and faces...

Looking at the last several posts it is going to be pretty funny to see which people in this thread actually do end up with that runny Egg Action. 8)

You mean besides you? That seems to be one of the constants of the universe, regardless of whether it's an NVIDIA or ATI launch (Overdrive, anyone?). 8)

Not this time my friend not this time.

No one is perfect by the way, especially me.

Wait i remember some other times as well...like when you were insisting as if you had insider info (a few days before the launch), that NV40 would definetely be an 8x2 design...
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame16.html


Still if X800Pro turns out to be 70% faster than 6800 Ultra then
a) ATi has done some magic
b) the drivers used to preview NV40 suck very bad
c) the test conditions are not directly comparable (e.g. the ATi card is tested with 8xMSAA and NV40 with that mixed 8x mode)

 

[Kombatant]

Guys, as I've said in Rage3D as well, average FPS != single FPS value in a said spot.

 

[Evildeus]

Guys, as I've said in Rage3D as well, average FPS != single FPS value in a said spot.

Exactly.

 

[UPO]

Hmm, there was presentation devoted to one of the new function of R420. ATI used special version of Serious Sam2 and one location in Half Life 2 to show it. Unfortunately PCLab had to remove pics but HL2 pic is in RAGE3D thread here http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33754641
OK, what is that new function? anyone?

 

[991060]

OK, what is that new function? anyone?

I believe it's sth. related to normal mapping.

 

[Daliden]

It's probably the rocks seen under the water surface; they're probably something very similar to the SM 3.0 rocks on the beach in the NV40 FarCry demonstration.

 

[hoom]

Or the FRAPS number was edited out of the image at ATi's request?

Looks painfully obvious to me that its the fraps one that has been edited thus this thread is about a fake.

 

[Hanners]

Looks painfully obvious to me that its the fraps one that has been edited thus this thread is about a fake.

I would have to question why any website would deliberately fake framerates like that. If it were simply a post on a forum then fair enough, but I don't see any reputable website (and I'm assuming they are considering they were invited to the event) deliberately faking images. Well, except Tom's Hardware.

 

[jolle]

i followed someone elses example when trying to somehow assess the resolution, seems to be 1600x1200.. in the rage3d thread..
doesnt say anything about FSAA or AF thus nothing about perfomance..
So read nothing into it, cept that it appears to be 1600x1200..

http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload3/farcry1600.jpg

what i did was mearly take a screenie at 1600x1200 and fit it over the one they had, and compared the size of the FRAPs FPS number...
thus it might not be accurate at all, if you can change the size of that report number.

 

[Stryyder]

I don't think you can change the size of the FRAPS counter.....But I could be wrong.