Egg on ATI's face?

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farcry running at 68 fps...I wonder what resolution/AA/AF settings were being used
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Given the screenshot consists mostly of skybox, I'm not that impressed, unless it's got very high AA/AF settings. I can post screenshots from my ti4400 running at 40-50 fps (with no AA) on highest detail, as the polycount and lighting in Far Cry varies a lot from scene to scene.
 
991060 said:
Yes, I know anything could change before we see the silicon, but this thing is just not gonna change. For me, it's not more likely for R420 to have 8xAA than NV40 to have 6xMS.
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Seriously, I'd like you to clarify:

Is your statement about ATI not supporting 8X based on some insider knowledge most of us don't hace access to, or more of your educated guess?
 
991060 said:
Evildeus, can you find some graphs about NV40@8x and 9800@6x in TRAOD? Since TRAOD is the name mentioned.
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Sorry, going to bed now, but i'll try tomorrow, if nobody does till then ;)
 
Joe DeFuria said:
Is your statement about ATI not supporting 8X based on some insider knowledge most of us don't hace access to, or more of your educated guess?
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Well, I was making a bet actually, you can articulate this in any way. ;)

But trust me, I was not trying to generate confusion.
 
Bry said:
I also take it to understand that current hardware (R3XX/N3X) Is not powerfull enough thus why it was not released earlier.
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If that is the implication, IMO it is a convenient excuse by that particular dev. The R3xx stuff is powerful enough.

There are three questions (if this is the actual intent of the dev) I would be asking:

(1) Does the dev believe the market is too small without nV's product support (thus waiting for NV4x)? (if the dev believes the market is too small, then the rationale is a good one)
(2) How much MDF $$$ this dev gets from nV/ATI? (I don't know about you, but $500K would get my attention - BTW $500K is just a random figure to denote largeness of some MDF payments... The market might look a lot smaller if I was getting MDF from ATI or nV)
(3) Is the game really ready for the market? (I suspect this is really the case, and blaming the shipment date on unready HW is very convenient)
 
Scarlet said:
Bry said:
I also take it to understand that current hardware (R3XX/N3X) Is not powerfull enough thus why it was not released earlier.
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If that is the implication, IMO it is a convenient excuse by that particular dev. The R3xx stuff is powerful enough.

There are three questions (if this is the actual intent of the dev) I would be asking:

(1) Does the dev believe the market is too small without nV's product support (thus waiting for NV4x)? (if the dev believes the market is too small, then the rationale is a good one)
(2) How much MDF $$$ this dev gets from nV/ATI? (I don't know about you, but $500K would get my attention - BTW $500K is just a random figure to denote largeness of some MDF payments... The market might look a lot smaller if I was getting MDF from ATI or nV)
(3) Is the game really ready for the market? (I suspect this is really the case, and blaming the shipment date on unready HW is very convenient)
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Alot of good questions there..non of which I can answer..i wonder though..If R3XX is strong enough..could SM2.0b be an upgrade for the R3XX series, and is R420 really SM3.0 compliant?? From what you just said it is a good assumption to make..However I also understand what you do when you assume things.
 
Joe DeFuria said:
Ardrid said:
I'm skeptical of any information coming from sites that declare "allegiance" in their names, which is why I avoid nV News, Rage3D, and AMDZone.
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PCLab.pl has an allegience?
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I must have missed the NV40 reference in PClab piece, could anyone point me to it?
 
991060 said:
Joe, they probably compared R420 in 6x with NV40 in 8x, there's no 8xAA(MS, SS or whatever ) in R420.
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Actually no thats Flat out wrong. Those are the kinds of tricks Nvidia plays.

When you actually see the final numbers settings and resoluitions i wonder what interesting commentary you will come up with then?
 
Diplo said:
farcry running at 68 fps...I wonder what resolution/AA/AF settings were being used
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Given the screenshot consists mostly of skybox, I'm not that impressed, unless it's got very high AA/AF settings. I can post screenshots from my ti4400 running at 40-50 fps (with no AA) on highest detail, as the polycount and lighting in Far Cry varies a lot from scene to scene.
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:rolleyes:

Perhaps you should go look at the Nv40 previews again and see the resolutions, settings etc the Nv40 was running while it was averaging in the low 40's.
 
farcry running at 68 fps...I wonder what resolution/AA/AF settings were being used
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Funny thing about that pic. . .

farcry.jpg

farcry2.jpg

Was that FRAPs number Photochopped in or is this some weird coincidence? :?:
 
Geeforcer said:
Joe DeFuria said:
Ardrid said:
I'm skeptical of any information coming from sites that declare "allegiance" in their names, which is why I avoid nV News, Rage3D, and AMDZone.
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PCLab.pl has an allegience?
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I must have missed the NV40 reference in PClab piece, could anyone point me to it?
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It wasn't in the article, just something that the guy who posted the article on the Rage3D forums said he heard.
 
Wait a minute I had to sit through endless Nv40 threads comparing Dual processor Athlon 64 FX scores, now it is time for some R420 hype. :D
 
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