E3 2010: Pre-Conference Discussion & Predictions

why not a 360 Slim?? It makes sense to me
Depends on when it comes out if its coming out within the next 2 months then they may announce a xbox360 slim, but if its gonna be later in the year (with natal, though Im expecting that next year), the last thing they want to do is announce it + kill off the current models sales.
Apart from the usual sequels we'll hear about, perhaps we'll hear about GTA5, now that would be big news, true GTA has lost some steam but even still GTA4 sold >10million copies
 
The only think that get me excited for this E3 is the level of performance that the 3DS will provide :)
A PSP2 would be a great news too but I'll put the odds close to 0% till a bit too early.

vg247 has a PSP2 rumor today. Uh, 4-core CELL and stuff.
 
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Also, 4-5 W are way, way too much for a handheld. ARM was ridiculing Intel's Atom when the initial chips were consuming on the order of 2 W. Typical mobile CPUs consume in the tens of mW.
 
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What is the power consumption of cell? If they used a 4 core version and brought it down from 3.4 ghz to 100 mhz, would it feasible?
It could maybe work, i.e. come down into an acceptable power envelope, but it just doesn't make sense to go multi-core for a mobile device. It's more efficient to scale single-core performance up. The thing is, in a mobile device, you still can do that. At the bleeding edge, in PCs or in Cell's case, clock scaling just hasn't been feasible anymore, a ceiling has been reached. That's why everyone scales up the number of cores, the other ways have been exhausted.

To wit, a single SPE at 800MHz would make much more sense (easier to work with, cheaper to manufacture, same if not lower power draw under load) than 4 SPEs at 200MHz. Still a power hog by mobile standards of course.

This rumor is pure bunk if you ask me.
 
windows phone 7 is too little too late, iphone and androids have the market plus RIM. WP7 is like iphone OS in 2008, I don't know if it'll ever catch up.

Sony will definitely be all about GT and Move, hopefully a final release date for GT5.
 
windows phone 7 is too little too late, iphone and androids have the market plus RIM. WP7 is like iphone OS in 2008, I don't know if it'll ever catch up.

Sony will definitely be all about GT and Move, hopefully a final release date for GT5.

Wait, so it's soon to dominate the market? :p

WP7 will get at least some traction, simply because Microsoft's power will get it some carrier deals (some are already known). I'm not keen on it dominating the world or anything though.
 
E3 most wanted:

-Crysis 2 footage. Game looks amazing, cant wait for full video. Probably has become my most anticipated!

-Halo Reach new slice of campaign footage. Yeah, we all know it's coming.

-New Rage footage.

-Gears of War 3 footage. Hopefully not too early?

-Sony's big fall shooter, either Killzone 3 or Resistance 3. Surely?

-All the Natal/Move stuff. Interested in at least seeing how it all plays out as a bystander.

And all the other smaller games, like Bulletstorm, Bodycount, and the megatons, possible megatons, any SKU/pricing hardware clarity...caaaaaant wait!
 
windows phone 7 is too little too late, iphone and androids have the market plus RIM. WP7 is like iphone OS in 2008, I don't know if it'll ever catch up.

Sony will definitely be all about GT and Move, hopefully a final release date for GT5.

Yes, just like Word was too late versus Wordperfect (dominated the market at the time). :) Or Facebook versus Myspace. Or IBM vs all the clones.

The history of business is dominated by products and services that had virtually unassailable positions getting overtaken by rivals.

I'm a bit sceptical myself that WP7 will overtake iPhone. Apple is just really good at marketing, both word of mouth and traditional. Android still has to prove itself, IMO, but still has quite a lead despite being the weaker opponent (currently) to WP7. Still, I would not be surprised if they got it together. They have a much better focus and strategy this time around. But it might be similar to Zune versus iPod. Superior in many ways, but can't overcome the advertising and momentum of the iPod.

Biggest thing I'm looking forward to at this E3 will be Sony and MS's motion control announcements.

Mostly Microsofts, as Sony has already done a bit of reveal. While we're still mostly in the dark about Natal. Hopefully some solid announcements of games and applications. And for me, hopefully word that it'll be useable on a PC. :p

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Yes, just like Word was too late versus Wordperfect (dominated the market at the time). :)
The history of business is dominated by products and services that had virtually unassailable positions getting overtaken by rivals.

This is true, but there need to be exceptional circumstances to facilitate something like this. In the case of WordPerfect, Novell bought WordPerfect, and development halted for a full year. Novell basically let WordPerfect die, and ended up selling it to Corel. Corel then slowly brought it back to life, but by that time WordPerfect was behind two full years of development and Microsoft Office had ample time and opportunity to take over the market.

I'm a bit sceptical myself that WP7 will overtake iPhone. Apple is just really good at marketing, both word of mouth and traditional. Android still has to prove itself, IMO, but still has quite a lead despite being the weaker opponent (currently) to WP7. Still, I would not be surprised if they got it together. They have a much better focus and strategy this time around. But it might be similar to Zune versus iPod. Superior in many ways, but can't overcome the advertising and momentum of the iPod.

iPhone is just the superior product. They've given consideration to what's important about a phone long before many others did, and then sold that idea in combination with their already strong position with iPod's and iTunes. Right now, there is still nothing 'superior in many ways' out there. Everything has its strength and weaknesses. It will take a significantly stronger product to overtake an existing market leader, and time.

Biggest thing I'm looking forward to at this E3 will be Sony and MS's motion control announcements.

Mostly Microsofts, as Sony has already done a bit of reveal. While we're still mostly in the dark about Natal.

There still fairly similar in that we've not seen the whole thing for either. For both, we've only seen the tip of the software iceberg I'm sure, but we've seen much less still from Natal, so that's why it gives the impression of mostly being in the dark. I predict a lot of announcements for both in terms of software, and also a lot of third party support. We'll definitely see publishers jump at the opportunity to put the experience and investments in Wii controls for their games on to the HD platforms, as at least some of them probably feel they didn't earn back their Wii investments.

While you could argue that they should expect the same for the HD consoles, the Motion controls are the new 'next-gen' consoles for the short term, and combined with the HD consoles being more friendly towards third party software, developers are probably going to be all over it. The biggest risk for them is that it may take a long time for the motion controls to sell sufficiently, but that's partly a reality they can shape themselves, and in terms of investment it's not nearly as bad as a proper next-gen. You can simply upgrade existing titles, and sell games that can be controlled with default controls as well.

Besides that we'll also definitely see some genres like RTS reappear, and I suspect there is a big chance that some of the MMOs we've been expecting have been held back in order to support Move (at least the Sony ones, maybe not FFXIV). I think especially Sony will announce launch dates for MMOs close to the Move launch this year.

I don't know if both companies are ready to talk about 3D yet, but Sony will definitely have some 3D stuff to play, and probably also one or two things that support both Move and 3D. Very possibly a lot of their big titles will support either one or both of these, but few of the big titles will actually require either - that's probably too soon and too big a gamble.

All three will definitely have some new network services stuff. The rumored premium service that does not relate to actual online gameplay that's been rumored for PSN seems very likely to happen. Some kind of XMB and/or NXE changes seem almost inevitable for both, partly to support the motion controls better, partly to better handle the growth of services presented there, though I don't expect either of them to have as shocking a layout change as NXE was for the 360.

I expect a tonne more to be announced this summer, and I definitely have more things than I have time to write about rightnow, but it will be interesting to see how much stuff we'll get at E3, and what will be held back until the shows in Europe and Japan.
 
Chargeable PSN rumor:
http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/17/premium-psn-plans-for-e3-reveal-to-cost-less-than-50-per-year/

A string of features will be revealed, apparently costing “less than £50 per year”.

Sony will confirm plans to give all subscribers one free PSN game per month, from a choice of “two to four” every month.“If you work it out, PSN games cost an average of £6-9 each, so over a year you’re basically going to be breaking even,” said our source.

A streaming music application similar to Spotify will be announced in Sony’s press conference on June 15. It’s thought that this can run in the background while playing games.

Rumours that cross-game voice chat is being saved as a paid feature are apparently not true, we were told.“I can tell you now, 100 percent, that that’s not the case,” our man continued.“There’s nothing in the premium package which will gimp regular PSN users.”

Don't know what to make of it yet (Doesn't sound quite right but we shall see)
 
iPhone is just the superior product. They've given consideration to what's important about a phone long before many others did, and then sold that idea in combination with their already strong position with iPod's and iTunes. Right now, there is still nothing 'superior in many ways' out there. Everything has its strength and weaknesses. It will take a significantly stronger product to overtake an existing market leader, and time.
Iphone is worse than my old htc touch mogul runing win mo 6.0 . Itunes software is horribly buggy and apple should be ashamed for pushing such crap software while complaining about flash being crap softwar.

Win 7 phone will have alot going for it including live intergration. many will buy it because of live intergration there are a ton of achivement whores and other things. It also has a lot of great features and I can connect it to actual decent software like zune.
 
- We'll know whether or not 3DS uses nVidia Tegra hardware
- We'll know what the heck the Vitality Sensor will be all about
- What's up with this new Zelda and ambiguity of the entire gameplay concept
- Hopefully plans to localize of Xenoblade, The Last Story and bring it to NA/EU by the end of the year
 
If sony do have a focus on Move it better not be the same stuff we have already seen. Im not convinced they are going to have too much new on that front to be honest going by the software they showed at the last event, i just got the impression that if they had something really impressive to show they would have showed it there. Hopefully they do have something cool, maybe the return of Eight Days as a Move game would make a good impression, the tech demos we saw were very impressive and would show well to crowds as a technical showcase, i think the gameplay would suit Move controls well.


8 days was remade into another game and recently (or will shortly ) be released. I was listening about it on a podcast.

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Depends on when it comes out if its coming out within the next 2 months then they may announce a xbox360 slim, but if its gonna be later in the year (with natal, though Im expecting that next year), the last thing they want to do is announce it + kill off the current models sales.
Apart from the usual sequels we'll hear about, perhaps we'll hear about GTA5, now that would be big news, true GTA has lost some steam but even still GTA4 sold >10million copies

I would expect the new 360 to come out before reach. After that doesn't make much sense.
 
- We'll know whether or not 3DS uses nVidia Tegra hardware
- We'll know what the heck the Vitality Sensor will be all about
- What's up with this new Zelda and ambiguity of the entire gameplay concept
- Hopefully plans to localize of Xenoblade, The Last Story and bring it to NA/EU by the end of the year

Nintendo's online strategy is an interesting topic too.

Also, I feel that they could build on their success in the wellness industry, and deepen the relationships with their user base.

EDIT: Eh... something like this:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nintendo-wii-gets-american-heart-associations-stamp-of-approval/

the AHA has announced that it's actually putting its stamp of approval on the Wii itself

... but more mini-apps and online services (on portable devices like DS also).
 
Iphone is worse than my old htc touch mogul runing win mo 6.0 . Itunes software is horribly buggy and apple should be ashamed for pushing such crap software while complaining about flash being crap softwar.

Win 7 phone will have alot going for it including live intergration. many will buy it because of live intergration there are a ton of achievement whores and other things. It also has a lot of great features and I can connect it to actual decent software like zune.
Windows 7 Phone was delayed why? Oh, and how many people own a 360 again? And how many of those use Live? And then how many of those are going to buy a certain phone because it supports Live integration?

Let's just say that it won't be the factor that drives them towards a Windows 7 Phone in significant enough quantities to threaten iPhone, Android or BlackBerry platforms.

And for what it's worth, I've yet to experience a single problem with iTunes in terms of buggy behaviour. Speaking of buggy, will be interesting to see if Microsoft can finally bring out a Phone OS that isn't extremely buggy. I have had a pretty bad experience with Windows mObile and family.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for Android to support installing software on SD cards rather than the typically extremely limited quantity of internal memory. Before that happens, Android is not a serious platform for me and definitely not for games. But once that has happened, Android will definitely be able to make a big step forwards, and Apple can start worrying (even) more seriously. Next problem to solve though is the user interface customisations being so slow to roll-out for newer versions of Android.

I'm not holding my breath, but I do definitely believe that Apple will have stiff competition. But it will be two more years before I can recommend the competition to my wife. Heck even here at work the iPhone ended up being the best choice after careful evaluation of several different phones.

I don't expect too much attention to phones at E3 though, so I'll leave the topic for now. ;)
 
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Outside of the commonly hyped stuff, I'm looking forward to Summer of Arcade announcements and Xbox Live fall update. I'd love to have a Xbox Live Platinum service that could replace my Comcrap cable.
 
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