Digital Foundry Retro Discussion [2018 - 2019]

Discussion in 'Console Technology' started by Cyan, Jan 19, 2018.

  1. MrSpiggott

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2005
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    21
    Location:
    UK
    A big company like Sony wont have a surplus stock of anything, they'll be running a lean manufacturing/ordering system like every other manufacturer.
    The spec' of the SoC looks acceptable. It's a slow chip by todays standards, but should be more than powerful enough to run PS1 software with the right emulator.
    I suspect something else has gone on behind the scenes.
     
  2. goonergaz

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2005
    Messages:
    2,977
    Likes Received:
    660
    Not only that but a decent looking PS2 slim is incredibly small and cute looking!

    I'm on the fence with this...my heart says buy but my head says hold off for a sale. I guess if it starts drying up I'll have to buy.
     
    vipa899 likes this.
  3. vipa899

    Regular Newcomer

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2017
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    348
    Location:
    Sweden
    Sony could have added this as a service to PS4 plus or something, PS4 is very capable of emulating psx games and then some. Have psx titles in the store.
     
    Shoujoboy and BRiT like this.
  4. Nesh

    Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2005
    Messages:
    10,691
    Likes Received:
    1,418
    They should add it for free. There is zero additional cost for every player playing a PS1 game, and it has never hindered current generation game sales either.
     
    Shoujoboy, Cyan and vipa899 like this.
  5. Cyan

    Cyan orange
    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,183
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    As happened with the replicas of NES and SNES, PlayStation Classic has been the object of desire of the most curious users since its arrival in stores on December 6. After only three days on sale the small console has already been opened in channel and its software assaulted, allowing loading games not included in the original alignment.

    Yifan Lu, one of the leading members of the PlayStation Vita scene, has shown through several Twitch transmissions how he manages to hack Playstation Classic and play Crash Bandicoot, a game that is not among the pre-installed ones. However, it seems that he was not the first to access the replica. A little before, the Japanese bakueikozo had already managed to load the PlayStation Classic image of a game from a USB device. The latter is a manual process, but the author bets that it should be possible to install the game.



    Everything seems to indicate that Sony has not put special effort to protect PlayStation Classic. According to Yifan Lu, the madmonkey hacker discovered that the files to update the system software of the console were signed with a key included by mistake in the same device. That is to say, the person responsible for the encryption of PlayStation Classic mixed the public and private keys, sharing the latter with everyone.

    For now we are only before proof of concept and there is not enough information or software that allows the end user to assault his PlayStation Classic. However, it is only a matter of time before tools are released to hack the replica and add more games in the same way that has been done with NES and SNES Mini thanks to Hakchi2.

    In addition to loading games, the nvsofts hacker has managed to run a version of Doom for PC in PlayStation Classic using the Wayland graphics protocol.

    [​IMG]

     
    Shoujoboy and OCASM like this.
  6. BRiT

    BRiT (╯°□°)╯
    Moderator Legend Alpha Subscriber

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2002
    Messages:
    11,240
    Likes Received:
    6,977
    Location:
    Cleveland
    uhm... It's the 9th already? :runaway:
     
    Shoujoboy and Cyan like this.
  7. milk

    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2012
    Messages:
    2,605
    Likes Received:
    2,051
    ...or on anything else about this product, for that matter
     
    Shoujoboy, DSoup and Cyan like this.
  8. Cyan

    Cyan orange
    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,183
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    yeah, in fact I think the usb keyboard and ESC trick is just the default behaviour of the emulator on computers and they forgot to remove or change that code so it works with keyboards, but not with all of them, for whatever reason.
     
    milk likes this.
  9. Nesh

    Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2005
    Messages:
    10,691
    Likes Received:
    1,418
    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...s-one-of-the-most-ambitious-ports-of-all-time

    DF Retro: why Resident Evil 2 on N64 is one of the most ambitious console ports of all time
    How two CDs were crammed on to one 64MB cart.

    With game-makers and publishers building almost all of their games with multiple console platforms in mind, it's worth remembering that things used to be very, very different. Titles used to launch on bespoke arcade platforms before being ported to home consoles, and when hardware like the original PlayStation arrived, titles were specifically built around its strengths. Direct ports to other systems rarely worked owing to massive hardware differences, with some developers opting to create entirely new games instead. But when it came to the N64 port of Resident Evil 2, Angel Studios - now Rockstar San Diego - went for a different approach. It aimed to overcome the N64's most profound limitations, delivering an uncannily accurate port of the original PlayStation release.

     
    Shoujoboy, OCASM and Cyan like this.
  10. Cyan

    Cyan orange
    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,183
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    Legend of a game. I am one of those who played the game back then.

    Played a bit, but most of the time I was watching my best childhood friend playing his PS1 version. I loved watching how he played the game in front of the TV.

    I had a good PC for the time, and thought that consoles weren't as good as a PC, but this was one of the games that impressed me on a console -along with Gran Turismo and a few others-.

    In fact, curiously enough, seeing DF Retro footage the memories of the places in the game are very vivid.

    The game was impressive and fun enough that I remember the places shown in the DF Retro video, without ever having owned the game -I still have the CD version of the original Resident Evil for PC, though-.

    Still remember the final boss of RE2, and his name somewhat -Wiskers or something like that-. I recall his transformations, the entire battle, how he got on top of some containers, etc.
     
    #310 Cyan, Dec 11, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2018
    Shoujoboy, Nesh and OCASM like this.
  11. OCASM

    Regular Newcomer

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2016
    Messages:
    754
    Likes Received:
    709
    I borrowed the game (N64 version) from a friend for a couple of days. I played it so much that I even had dreams in which I was still playing it :lol:
     
    Nesh and Cyan like this.
  12. Nesh

    Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2005
    Messages:
    10,691
    Likes Received:
    1,418
    Ah yes everything blended so well. Music, sound, graphics, art, every segment in the game was memorable :D.
    I wish we had more games that had such a similar impact these days.
     
    Cyan likes this.
  13. Cyan

    Cyan orange
    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,183
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    vipa899, Silent_Buddha and OCASM like this.
  14. Cyan

    Cyan orange
    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,183
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    DF Retro found out that the original Gamecube has been built with lossless digital signal from the very beginning, something that many people didn't know. Well, 99,99% of the people. It was my 2nd console ever and I remember it for being small, had cute graphics and the insane difficulty of one of my favourite games, F-Zero series.

    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...h-powers-a-new-wave-of-gamecube-hdmi-adapters

     
    OCASM and vipa899 like this.
  15. OCASM

    Regular Newcomer

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2016
    Messages:
    754
    Likes Received:
    709
    Much more detailed video:

     
    Cyan likes this.
  16. Cyan

    Cyan orange
    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,183
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    John published the list of his favourite games this year 2018. Now that DF talks about videogames for once... :D The games that made to the top are quite surprising, to say the least, I expected what everyone should expect, but no. His list tells me more than than the umpteenth lists that repeats the same line.

    He also mentions a retro game before the number 1 game on the list.



    on a different note, I am currently playing the wonderful HooM2.

    [​IMG]

    Merry Christmas everyone btw.
     
    turkey and OCASM like this.
  17. Cyan

    Cyan orange
    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,183
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    talking of games with prerendered backgrounds.... Fans are using artificial intelligence to run Final Fantasy VII backgrounds in true HD.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    https://translate.google.com/transl...tificial-para-remasterizar-final-fantasy-vii/
     
    AlBran, OCASM and Nesh like this.
  18. vipa899

    Regular Newcomer

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2017
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    348
    Location:
    Sweden
     
    Cyan and BRiT like this.
  19. Cyan

    Cyan orange
    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    8,183
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    Retro Rich xDDDDDDDDDDD. Prince of Persia was a very good game -though I played a different, coloured version. Wii's rendition (2009) was spectacuar.

    Nice that they use a video from @swaaye :mrgreen: to show Quake.

    They show my favourite stage from Return to Castle Wolfenstein which is, btw, much better than the original.

    My first PC was:
    Pentium 100MHz
    32MB of RAM
    2MB Trident VGA graphics card with horrible drivers
    Sound Blaster AWE 32
    to which I thankfully added a Diamond Monster 3D :cool2: (monster, but no evil here xD) later
    3400€.....

    (Bought that computer 'cos I was involved in a car crash, unluckily so, and lost my spleen, and my parents let me use part of the compensation to buy anything I wanted. I didn't want a console, but a PC).
    Second one was a
    Celeron 300MHz
    Voodoo 3 (also a Matrox G400 AGP, lovely image quality, native bump mapping and 32 bits was revolutionary, but Voodoo 3 was much faster)
    128MB of RAM
    Sound Blaster Live!
    (so much happiness with this one)

    What was your first PC?
     
    #319 Cyan, Jan 23, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2019
    vipa899 likes this.
  20. vipa899

    Regular Newcomer

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2017
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    348
    Location:
    Sweden
    Yeah pc gaming wasnt cheap then, it was on another level allready then. Multiplat games on the geforce 2mx pc did better then their ps2 versions, half life decay coop was fun on ps2, so was ssx and ghost recon/first red faction.

    Otherwise pc here, my first was a p133mhz, 32mb and a voodoo 2, lasted all the way to 2000/2001 i believe it was.
     
    Cyan likes this.
Loading...

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Beyond3D has been around for over a decade and prides itself on being the best place on the web for in-depth, technically-driven discussion and analysis of 3D graphics hardware. If you love pixels and transistors, you've come to the right place!

    Beyond3D is proudly published by GPU Tools Ltd.
Loading...