Destiny [PS3,X360,PS4,XO]

[orangpelupa]

hmm, i think i have light beware void.
you also can push praetorian down to cliff using RPG. Usually i used truth. The the right plate is easy for pusing praetorians.

btw i just realized how horrible my post above. please pardon my overzealous autoincorrect.

 

[NRP]

Man I should have listened to Strange and bought P&T a few weeks back. All my snipers are a bit lackluster at higher levels.

 

[Rangers]

Iron banner 2.0 vendor has gauntlets and boots that hit 30 light.

That's...interesting, and another avenue to help hit 30. Almost got me thinking about PVP...but nah, better of just rolling the raid 3x/week/

Looks like they have intellect and discipline as the stat roll, nothing noteworthy there.

 

[djskribbles]

I may have to consider that because it seems like the raid doesn't want to give me any armor. I did the raid 3x for the past 2 weeks and I've already done it twice this week. I just finished it and got ALL shards and chatterwhite. Seriously wtf?

 

[Rangers]

I honestly have a hard time believing wild tales of not getting armor after 100 raids and all. It just seems completely impossible by the nature of random numbers. Some whiny kid was in my raid a couple weeks ago talking about how he had 101 energy but only 2 shards or something, because the game was only giving him energy. I'm sorry but the game I assume and in my case divides materials awards 50-50 randomly between shards and energy, there is NO WAY for that to happen. It is basically like saying "I flipped a perfectly evenly weighted coin 103 times and it came up heads 101".

Now 5X raids without any armor definitely seems plausible.

I cant complain, I'm not sure how many times I've completed the raid, guessing about 10-12. I got the three unique raid pieces I needed to hit 30 ( I had an exotic helm from Xur) first, fairly quickly, with no duplicates. Since then I've gotten two additional raid chest armor (which I've given to my alts). Total of 5 raid pieces received so far.

I just realized exotic helmets are pretty easy to buy from xur/come by (I already have 2), and I have those additional two raid chest armor, so Iron Banner might be a good way to get my alts to 30. I may look into it. It would have to be reasonably easily achievable just by competing, because I SUCK at PVP (especially now I bet that some people have been living in crucible for two months, and I wouldn't even know where to start as far as gear/loadout). Also, I dont really even want to sink shards into one of the chest pieces because it's an all strength roll.

Unfortunately though skribbles, if you go IB, you will still need one raid piece to hit 30 sooner or later.

 

[djskribbles]

I've done the raid around a dozen times as well (plus quite a few partial runs). This is BS.

Getting raid gear is the only thing keeping me going at this point, and I'm getting shit all. Getting all shards and chatterwhite in my last raid seriously pissed me off.

I'm seriously considering quitting this game completely. I'll do 2-3 more raids, and if I don't get ONE piece of raid gear, I'm quitting and not even picking up the DLC.

 

[Graham]

I'm seriously considering quitting this game completely. I'll do 2-3 more raids, and if I don't get ONE piece of raid gear, I'm quitting and not even picking up the DLC.

I suggest going your local DAA. They can help you through the withdrawal and resist further temptation.

 

[Nisaaru]

I don't think the RNG is truly "random". There are patterns which make no sense in a truly *R*NG. We just don't know the rules/conditions....

I'm convinced there's some loot cap which is reset also on Tuesday...in my case it's more likely to get legendary engrams after the reset than at the end of the week.
o The flood of ship engrams I got last week I think happened once before but weeks ago.
o I get far more shards than energy.
o I've only seen 1 legendary weapon since early 1st week October but got a lot of unnecessary legendary armor.
o When I enter Earth it's more likely I get a green/blue engram from shooting the 3 before the bunker entry as my *first* kills, the 3-4 Dregs which pop up on the entrance "hill" into the Divide or a green/blue one from the group in the building complex between Steppes/Divide than any other location there and I've played through a lot other locations intensively. Maybe some "kill timing/bullet efficiency"
o I'm not fully sure but I have a feeling that distance kills(maybe at the range limit of a weapon), heavy weapon/super usage and Scouts/Sniper have a higher chance than ARs because my major kills are AR based.

This isn't "random". There are streaks/patterns.

 

[NRP]

I sort of have the opposite problem. I've done ok on the armor front, but so far I've gotten shit all for decent weapons. My legendary drops have mostly been obscure faction-specific pulse rifles and crap like that. I got a few exotics from engrams, but they've come from leveling up. And even then, I got two The Last Words, which is an amusing hand cannon but ultimately useless for serious work. Why can't I get an Ice Breaker or Gjallorhorn goddamn it!

 

[Rangers]

This isn't "random". There are streaks/patterns.

Actually that's what you'd expect with random...any baseball hitter that hits .330 on the year will have games where he goes 4-4 and games where he goes 0-4.

Edit: I had a complete raid last night where I only got shards, energy, and chatterwhite. Terrible and I dont remember ever having a raid that bad before, so I'll jump on the conspiracy bandwagon and pretend it must be Bungie nerfed loot with the new patch Actually I was trying to watch other players loot as well and that I noticed, only a couple non-materials dropped for anybody in the whole raid, one guy got a raid piece at some point and one guy got universal remote. Granted not saying I kept up with what others got perfectly.

I dont mind terribly, still ended up with like 10+ each shards and energy which will help a lot on upgrading all the tons of stuff I need to upgrade. Some guns I was one the fence about spending energy on, I now wont mind doing so. I think I have ~70 energy now so, time to spend some.

I tried the nightfall and it is pretty rough with Captains being able to one-barrage you. It wasn't that bad but I kept dying on stupid stuff and not being patient enough, so I kept my vow to not keep beating my head on it this week and gave up on it for now. I'll come back to it and if worst comes to worst group it. My new policy in general is going to be Raids before nightfall. The only problem is I had preferred to do everything (weekly, nightfall, raid) on one char, then switch to the next do all 3, etc, to minimize equipment switching. Now I'll have to come back to characters for nightfall. However, equipment switching is not that bad, so oh well.

Also, I have not really figured out a way to totally avoid switching. Even if my guys were all 30, it's pretty much a must to trade off resources and I also like to trade my ammo synths, to avoid carryin triple stock of those basically. That and I ALWAYS have certain guns or armor I am upgrading with priority, so I kind of need to switch those as well if I want to upgrade them ASAP. So yeah, evemn with all 30 armor, sadly I've realized equipment switching will never really go away for the forseeable future. The biggest problem I cant see going away would be resources. I already hate gathering them enough...I am not going to gather them for all 3 characters separately. I guess it depends on priorities too. If Bungie allows us to buy resources soon which they hinted, I can actually see a day where I DONT switch equipment though.

One way I've found to ease the resource pain is just split them up. Every so often I just go get batches of 16 of some resource, when I dont immediately need it. Try to stockpile just a bit. This way I dont get in a point where I just have to do nothing but grind that resource for a longer period, perhaps when I get 2-3 guns/armor that randomly all take the same resource to upgrade,

Anyways with the new bounty slots it was fun earlier I completed or had already saved about 7-8 bounties, turned them all in for like 30-40k experience at once, it was fun, my guns gained gained some serious upgrades in one swoop. I also used the corresponding weapon telemetries that I had for even more. Too bad I couldn't stack them with the nightfall bonus for even more. It will be fun stacking shit like that now with the ten slots.

 

[Strange]

My 2 raids this week (LV30 ones though) gave me a VoC, two Praetorean Foils, Truth, and several armor pieces (couple of heads, and I think boots, and arm). I'll update my third raid once I finish it.

As long as you're not missing raid boots, 2 pieces of armor will get you to LV30. (use an exotic), and Iron banner this week allows you to hit 30 without needing raid boots.

The shortest pathway to 30 with minimal Raiding is probably Iron banner boots, Iron banner gloves, raid helmet (which are practically given out for free if you do LV30 raids), and a exotic body that is occasionally sold from Xur..
So all in all LV30 isn't that hard to hit this week.

I'll throw in something extra: you can upgrade your LV26 loot point to LV30 loot if you do LV30 raid without using up your LV26 loot point. (proven by the fact that I've received two fatebringers on a single loot point) That should help you get that raid helmet.

 

[Rangers]

30 raid is kinda tough, though. It can be kind of frustrating, and often groups give up in the middle. This creates problem of scattered missed loot points. Whereas normal, it's fairly easy to do a fresh run, and keep things tidy by picking up all loot points. Not that it matter THAT much I guess, especially now that I've got one character at 30 already.

I heard it described as "I dont do hard raid because I play this game for FUN and hard raid isn't" or something like that. I tended to agree with that.

All that said, I'm starting to FINALLY feel fairly confident at the raid (except for the relic, since I never grab it) , and will start dabbling in hard again. Just doing nightfall/weekly/get resources/a few daily's/normal raid on 3 chars practically takes all my time though.

I tried new strategy last time of using Patience and Time instead of Ice Breaker on Atheon when in the bubble, with that stability I imagined just pumping shot after shot into him with ease...

I'm not sure really how it worked out. Seemed OK, P&T still hits for a good deal less than IB, mine is only yet 274 I think. Reload is still a lot of downtime with P&T though.

I'm still struggling to find a justification for rocket launchers at all on the raid, at least in normal. It feels artificial or forced to try to use them. Ammo is always an issue with those, especially if you die a lot. They dont one shot praetorian, either. On top of all that the blowing yourself up risk. However, putting a fusion rifle into the rotation on plate defense seems like a clear win.

I think Vision/Fusion/IB/Void Machine Gun is the ideal loadout. Just switch to IB from Fusion on Atheon.

My kills counts have been quite competent in Raid lately, they used to lag. Atheons Epilogue is really terrible, that was part of my prob. I like how in the new update they break down kills better. It showed how I was cleaning up on the oracles for example. Sometimes in regular strikes I would feel like my kill count would lag because I tended to focus on pumping damage into bosses and let other clean up the ads. I wish for a "%damage done to boss" or something stat, I feel like I'd rule that.

 

[Xalion]

I'm still struggling to find a justification for rocket launchers at all on the raid, at least in normal. It feels artificial or forced to try to use them. Ammo is always an issue with those, especially if you die a lot. They dont one shot praetorian, either. On top of all that the blowing yourself up risk. However, putting a fusion rifle into the rotation on plate defense seems like a clear win.

The rocket launcher really only has 3 places that it shines - and none of them are really apparent on normal. The first is when you are part of the portal team on gatekeeper. Each of them has a hydra that needs to be killed quickly. They also have a bunch of mini adds that run around. While a sniper is just as good for killing the hydra, if you have 2 people with Gjallahorns or upgraded Hezen Vengeances, you kill not only the hydra but almost everything around it in 2-3 shots each even on hard. Basically it makes clearing the portal take ~30 seconds each. On normal, doesn't really matter that much because the gate is so easy even without the quick kill.

The second is when you are on Venus (future) side on Atheon. A couple of rockets down by the praetorian helps the shield bearer out a great deal. This is really useful on hard. On normal it is so easy for the shield bearer to plow through the mobs that it doesn't matter.

The last is if you have a lot of them and you are doing Atheon himself. If you have 6 Gjallahorns or Hezen Vengeances, you can take Atheon down in 2 rounds. Gjallahorn is the best because it requires very little aiming. Of course you don't do the "jump to the center" strat when you are doing it this way. The shield bearer uses his super to shoot Atheon and everyone else just fires rockets from wherever they might be standing. It is best to be spread out when you are doing this. Because little aiming is required, you can run, jump, shoot, etc. all without ever stopping moving. I should note that this is my least favorite Atheon strat, because it requires everyone to have specific weapons. This strat sucks for someone trying to use a sniper because they have to slow down and look through their scope for max damage.

I generally use a weapon load out very similar to that you proposed. I will sometimes throw on Hezen Vengeance and use my Pocket Infinity for taking down Praetorians if we are having trouble - but that is very rare.

 

[Rangers]

Interesting tips...

And yeah, the other thing about RL's is most, if not all, groups I've been in just use the gather in center with bubble shield on Atheon method. So RL's are useless there. It's back to IB.

 

[orangpelupa]

anybody watched the leaked Dark Below DLC Intro cinematic?

- it seems the HIVE has became the Avengers (lol, look at their "webbings" when the camera go trough Hive Well).
- Crota is a bigger and greener Hive Knight
- Story probably will be as dry as usual. e.g. Crota is hellbent on destroying earth. Guardian, stop it for unlimited times and pray to RNG.

 

[Rangers]

Yeah, main thing I got out of it is boss is a big knight instead of witch.

Mildly exciting trailer, too.

Raid tonight, got gauntlets and Found Verdict. Unfortunately the gauntlets were strength only. Uggh. I get so much stuff for hunter thats all strength. I guess I'll max them anyway though, sigh. Since I'm getting close to having 2 30's anyway.

Still despise resource farming...hurry up with that damn update Bungie.

Xur isn't selling what I've been wanting, Symbiote. I'll probably buy that Mida Multi Tool cus why not. Might as well throw it on the mountain of legendaries and exotics I have. Plus I do like scouts. But not necessarily exotic primaries...

Maxed P&T finally also. So my list of 300 weapons is: Vision of Confluence, P&T, Ice Breaker, Atheons Epilogue (one of my 3) The Swarm (solar) and Zombie Apocalypse (void). My top priority to max next is Gallahorn. Also working on Red Hand IX (it'll make a good alt primary) and Light/Beware. I honestly may not 300 those, more cause resources are annoying, I have plenty of shards and energy (usually 60-70 of each).

If I buy Mida I'll have plenty of good candidates for my two alts primaries. Suros, Red Hand, Mida, would all be good primaries. Excepting I dont love exotic primaries.

 

[NRP]

Goddamn no Ice Breaker!

Is Mida Multi-Tool any good? I've never seen anyone using it or even talking about it.

 

[orangpelupa]

yeah.. when i see xur selling MIDA.

1. its exotic primary
2. it does not have elemental damage

 

[Rangers]

I've done a little reading up on Mida. It's supposedly pretty good. Designed to be light and fast, it's perks include + 2 agility, doesn't hit super hard. Seems to be a decent weapon but not spectacular, in PVE.

I'll probably buy it and end up not using it. I have 66 coins, and other than ammo synth, Xur pretty much can barely sell anything I want anymore, I have it all. Except Symbiote, and whenever that comes up it'll be a measly 13 coins.

Today I will have not much on my plate but going to try some hard raiding, done with normal and weekly heroic on all chars. Maybe I will do some nightfall. But most of my playing is behind me for the week so the nightfall experience buff wont help much, it cant offer me 30 armor, and I really dont need more exotic and legendary weapons, and some of the few I do want only drop in hard raid anyway. Offhand I can only think of Thunderlord and Fatebringer that I really want, though I'm probably missing some. Suppose I could use another VoC or two.

I guess I could win Symbiote...

 

[NRP]

Yeah, I've got 51 coins saved. I might get it. I watched a video and it has really fast reload speed, which is always helpful.