Destiny [PS3,X360,PS4,XO]

[Rangers]

Fatebringer is by far the single most used weapon in the raid for thralls from what I've seen. There is a reason most of the videos of people soloing the raid use it. Unlike a scout it is one of the few weapons you can fire from the hip at full speed and get headshots with. A single headshot can and will take out the entire pack of thralls following you. A non-headshot will still get 2-3. I am with Strange and djskribbles on this one. Rate of fire isn't important when you only need to shoot 2-3 times every thrall spawn to kill all of the thralls that spawn. I also don't get the complete stop thing. Most of the time I am firing from the hip, and do that without stopping. Even when I'm not firing from the hip I run at full speed. Hand cannons have a wider field of view and so are much easier to fire with on the move than scouts when scoping (scouts generally have a higher zoom, but that results in less FoV). I would say for mobility hand cannons and shotguns are king. The only real downside to a hand cannon is reload - but on that count Vex isn't much better. You would be better off with a large clip auto. I cannot think of a single reason to use Vex over Fatebringer for the first part.

Vex is more used for thralls, and thats with even far less people owning Vex. Look around at the start area of your next raid. The next most common will be fatebringer, for people who dont have vex, and just think the overrated firefly perk is cool, not because of weapon quality.

Vex has the agility +2 as well which is even more of a bonus here.

Fatebringer is just extremely slow to handle, and it feels like you must come to a full stop to use it. I switched from Fatebringer to any old scout even before I discovered how good vex was here. I would rather use a kinetic scout than Fatebringer in that section. The rate of fire of Fatebringer is also slow of course.

It's just much better to be able to turn and hold down the fire button and know you're firing a continuous beam of plasma that "mows" than come to a complete and total halt, to line up a head shot with Fatebringer imo.

I think I'm going to do some damage testing soon to put some hard numbers on things...I'm kinda doubting fatebringer hits much if any harder than my Badger CCL.

 

[Strange]

Fatebringer sucks for thralls

Maybe not sucks, but I dont even like it as much as a scout. It feels so slow. You have to like come to a complete stop to shoot anything. Not good in CE. Plus a slow rate of fire is the antitheses of what you want on thrall.

Vex pwns it on thralls.

Fatebringer pretty much one shots thralls on body shots, and wounds any nearby. Firefly kills a whole group of them. Most people I know go fatebringer. Nobody brings anything else if they have fatebringer.

If you really have to stop to shoot your fatebringer then I think it's not fatebringer's issue since I have no real problems killing thralls on the move - especially when equipping explosive rounds.

You sure you can kill 10 thralls in 2 seconds with Vex? Vex is no doubt a good gun but it's just not as effective as firefly against hordes of enemies.

Most people go with max ammo capacity for Vex. Unless there's a particular thing to jump rarely do people switch over to +2 agility.


FYI fatebringer currently hits ~1500 headshots and ~500+250 for body shots. That's not counting AOE damage.

 

[djskribbles]

Fatebringer is by far the single most used weapon in the raid for thralls from what I've seen. There is a reason most of the videos of people soloing the raid use it. Unlike a scout it is one of the few weapons you can fire from the hip at full speed and get headshots with. A single headshot can and will take out the entire pack of thralls following you. A non-headshot will still get 2-3. I am with Strange and djskribbles on this one. Rate of fire isn't important when you only need to shoot 2-3 times every thrall spawn to kill all of the thralls that spawn. I also don't get the complete stop thing. Most of the time I am firing from the hip, and do that without stopping. Even when I'm not firing from the hip I run at full speed. Hand cannons have a wider field of view and so are much easier to fire with on the move than scouts when scoping (scouts generally have a higher zoom, but that results in less FoV). I would say for mobility hand cannons and shotguns are king. The only real downside to a hand cannon is reload - but on that count Vex isn't much better. You would be better off with a large clip auto. I cannot think of a single reason to use Vex over Fatebringer for the first part.

Yup. I dunno about Rangers, but I've rarely seen people use the vex for the first part. Almost everyone I know who has fatebringer uses it for thrawls, and I've done crota over 30 times.

And I don't know how firefly is overrated...as mentioned several times, you can take out SEVERAL thrawls with one shot. Maybe Rangers just isn't a handcannon guy.

 

[RenegadeRocks]

Have managed only one strange coin till now, but guess what I got from the nightfall: the Hard light ! Never heard of it but it looks and sounds like a beast !
Now I will try the ROC for strange coins

 

[nightshade]

Considering how we'll be seeing Destiny for the next 9 years, I hope Bungie dresses up Xur as Santa for one of the Christmas weekends

 

[-tkf-]

First zone when you zone into cosmodrome on patrol. The building in the middle where you go down to find the map in the second story mission (it is also connected to the 3 elite hive spawn). Note that the triggers now also include the Blade of Crota, so if you get bad timing you end up having to run up every 2 clears or so to clear hive and/or the ship drops. This isn't a great spot to farm blues if you want them. If you want blues, run roc strikes. You are guarenteed 2-4 blues per run, which with a good group take anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes. So you can get upwards of 20 blues an hour. This spot is however great for certain bounties. For example, kill 2 or more enemies with a fusion rifle. This spot is great because you can get 3 two mob kills every time you go up (although I usually only get 2 because I'll hit 3 with one shot). It is also good for the kill multiple enemies with your super. It has the advantage over the moon mission of not having to die at the right time. You can definitely solo it. I actually don't like to have more than myself there when I'm doing it. Other people don't always know the trigger spawns and mess it up.

We have woken the hive is excellent for hive majors,precision kills, supers, behind kills, orbs, melee and multiple fusion kills. Just let one yellow dude live, then die repeat die ,and do it at lvl 9 or 20. 20 reduces, accidentally killing yellow with supers or grenades.

When done, just orbit. You can return and skip the first part as long as you don't kill all yellows.

 

[Rangers]

Fatebringer pretty much one shots thralls on body shots, and wounds any nearby. Firefly kills a whole group of them. Most people I know go fatebringer. Nobody brings anything else if they have fatebringer.

If you really have to stop to shoot your fatebringer then I think it's not fatebringer's issue since I have no real problems killing thralls on the move - especially when equipping explosive rounds.

You sure you can kill 10 thralls in 2 seconds with Vex? Vex is no doubt a good gun but it's just not as effective as firefly against hordes of enemies.

Most people go with max ammo capacity for Vex. Unless there's a particular thing to jump rarely do people switch over to +2 agility.


FYI fatebringer currently hits ~1500 headshots and ~500+250 for body shots. That's not counting AOE damage.

Yeah I saw some reddit DPS thing and before it's buff VM was close to FB, with the buff to 323 Vex will be above. And that's not counting FB takes a big penalty on majors and ultras and Vex takes much less of one (90% vs 73% on ultras).

I dont really believe those DPS things define a weapon anyway, Vision of Confluence was my main before and I think it's as good as FB (kind of a tie really imo) even though Fb is well ahead in DPS supposedly (wouldn't surprise me if the testers were biased, who knows).

 

[Rangers]

Considering how we'll be seeing Destiny for the next 9 years, I hope Bungie dresses up Xur as Santa for one of the Christmas weekends

They did nothing this past Christmas...or new years...had pumpkin head cosmetic accessory on halloween.

If they dressed him up as Santa he'd have to be giving away or at least selling Gjallahorn to placate reddit.

 

[Rangers]

Yup. I dunno about Rangers, but I've rarely seen people use the vex for the first part. Almost everyone I know who has fatebringer uses it for thrawls, and I've done crota over 30 times.

And I don't know how firefly is overrated...as mentioned several times, you can take out SEVERAL thrawls with one shot. Maybe Rangers just isn't a handcannon guy.

Yeah but you're in a clan, so I dunno they may be set in their ways and biased towards FB.

It's probably about equal FB (or some other HC, dunno visually) and Vex. But then again that could be swayed by which one more people have (dunno, but kinda guessing less have Vex, wasnt vex hard only and FB normal or hard? or they were both hard only?)

My last PUG, 5/6 vex at start.

It's well known Vex is good in CE, it's not just me saying it, also Planet Destiny.com etc. Even Bungie kind of designed it that way. They said months ago the goal for Vex was you could take it into the next raid (Crota) But I know since you guys are arguing against it you will now never use it and stick to FB forever even if Vex is 3X as good.

Firefly overrated...I dunno just feel like it is. It doesn't really have much area of damage. I have it on my NITC, I'd still use Badger without. Honestly Thralls are not a huge concern in general, except in first part of Crota, and anyway HC's are kinda poor for thralls anyway since they handle so slow (scouts also poor for thrall, since theyre designed more for mid-long range). Best to switch to a machine gun for thrall if you use a HC, unless you just have time to pick them off as they come.

It just feels like something overrated by redditors, but I do get caught up in the hype and now feel like it's a good perk when I see it on a weapon, because of peer pressure LOL. If it was just me I probably would think it useless.

 

[NRP]

Is Vex an exotic? Honestly, I thought it was a PS4 exclusive weapon, until Rangers started going on about it. How do you get it? Is it a VoG raid-only weapon?

I need a good weapon for those goddamn thralls. That first level of the CE raid is probably one of the toughest of the whole raid, especially if you're stuck on a team full of douche nozzles.

 

[Rangers]

Have managed only one strange coin till now, but guess what I got from the nightfall: the Hard light ! Never heard of it but it looks and sounds like a beast !
Now I will try the ROC for strange coins

Keep us updated, I want to see if you get it.

On reddit they even suggest people short coins for ib making an alt, rush to 20, run weekly again just to get enough coins for IB if needed.

Only needing four though, I'd think you could do it. Also do the gold daily PE each day probably, coins turn up in those packages often.

 

[RenegadeRocks]

Got another coin from ROC engrams. Need three now, but I am doubtful I can get it . Not enough time today. Three coins is a not an easy task as they drop one at a time which ever they do.

 

[Rangers]

xur doesn't leave til 4 am saturday morning right?

 

[djskribbles]

@Rangers, I don't only raid with my clan though, I also raid with other groups on my friends list.

And FB only drops on templar hardmode AFAIK. It is probably less rare (I got 3 of them vs 1 vex) but it's still pretty rare considering I know a lot of people that don't have it.

 

[NRP]

Man, IB hits like a Mack truck! I think I'm going to buy one for each character, just so I don't have to switch.

 

[orangpelupa]

@djskribbles
im your reverse

3 vex no fatebringer

 

[Nisaaru]

Got another coin from ROC engrams. Need three now, but I am doubtful I can get it . Not enough time today. Three coins is a not an easy task as they drop one at a time which ever they do.

Have you got the 4th Mars golden chest for your characters? That gives a coin.

 

[Rangers]

Yeah, I would do that if you haven't Renegade and keep after the other 2. Dont give up...

Grind Roc playlist.

BTW people always write ROC like it's an abbreviation, apparently it's actually a eagle-like bird!

 

[Rangers]

Auqmarine says Destiny sold 1 million in December NPD

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147836837&postcount=2701

I was wondering if it will develop huge legs (though this isn't infallible proof of that)

It's really like nothing else ever seen, for many years I thought if a mainstream MMORPG like WoW could be developed on consoles, and if it could work around things like a lack of keyboard for communication on console, there'd be almost no limit to it's popularity. i think Destiny is finally that game.

I wonder if it was set in COD universe if it would have sold much better (but I would have liked it less). I think so. Military has a big edge over sci-fi in recent FPS sales.

Put COD branding and assets on these mechanics...sales would have been insane I think.

Edit: Also Destiny top selling digital game of the year 2014 on PSN http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=973130

Although I see it was only 7th digitally in EU.

I wonder if like me, a fair amount of people made a specific point to buy this digitally when they're normally agnostic to digital. I did. I figured it would be a game I wanted to always have easy access to and would come back to a lot for a long time, even if I had another game's disc in the tray.

 

[RenegadeRocks]

Have you got the 4th Mars golden chest for your characters? That gives a coin.

Where is that pls. I don't remember now , it was so long back